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Old 03-08-2019, 05:41 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Companies generally hire locally anyway. In fact, you pretty much have to have a local address to even be considered. Just like if you are in NYC but send a resumé for a job in LA, it will be thrown in the trash.

With that said, forcing companies to hire a certain percentage from the local area is asinine. Companies should be allowed to hire the most qualified people. Of course, that kind of government overreach and interference is something the Left loves to come up with.
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Old 03-08-2019, 05:43 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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I was born and raised in NY 5 boroughs.

Yes there's always been transplants but they comprised 20% of the population, not 80% like they do today.
Aw, should society all stop and turn back the clock to exactly the time of your fondest memories? Should all the NY'ers that moved away, come back just to make your life similar to when you grew up? Maybe everybody should wear the retro style too?
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Old 03-08-2019, 05:54 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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The reasons why this happens though, is companies don't go out of their way to hire NYC's ethnic poor. So if you KNOW you aren't going to directly benefit from these changes, why would you actively fight for them?

The city and the corporate sector can SOLVE this problem, by working to incorporate these neighborhoods and the PEOPLE into them into the mainstream society.
What do these “ethnic poor” bring to the table that screams, “corporations should be hiring them, or else!”
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Old 03-08-2019, 09:48 AM
 
Location: JC
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Companies generally hire locally anyway. In fact, you pretty much have to have a local address to even be considered. Just like if you are in NYC but send a resumé for a job in LA, it will be thrown in the trash.

With that said, forcing companies to hire a certain percentage from the local area is asinine. Companies should be allowed to hire the most qualified people. Of course, that kind of government overreach and interference is something the Left loves to come up with.
Having been employed by one of the FAANG companies for 5.5 years new hires are largely pulled from outside the city, at least for in demand skilled roles. The hiring outlook looks even more lopsided in tech.

Agreed however that a city mandate for local hiring will kill growth quicker than any AOC/NIMBY rally. If a limit on H1B visa workers passes it needs to come from the Feds and be applied nationwide, not at the state or city level.
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:55 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I was born and raised in NY 5 boroughs.

Yes there's always been transplants but they comprised 20% of the population, not 80% like they do today.
They once comprised almost 100% you know
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Old 03-09-2019, 02:10 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Having been employed by one of the FAANG companies for 5.5 years new hires are largely pulled from outside the city, at least for in demand skilled roles. The hiring outlook looks even more lopsided in tech.

Agreed however that a city mandate for local hiring will kill growth quicker than any AOC/NIMBY rally. If a limit on H1B visa workers passes it needs to come from the Feds and be applied nationwide, not at the state or city level.
Only because there's not enough qualified candidates from within this city. Companies would almost always prefer to hire locally, if they can.
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:28 AM
 
Location: NYC
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https://nypost.com/2019/03/09/why-fo...ever-pays-off/

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But Pat Garofalo thinks we had a lucky escape. “There’s a long history of companies saying, ‘We’ll do all this stuff if you give us this money,’ and then they just don’t do it,” says Garofalo, author of the new book, “The Billionaire Boondoggle: How Our Politicians Let Corporations and Bigwigs Steal Our Money and Jobs” (Thomas Dunne Books), out Tuesday.
Read this article and you'll see why it never pays to appease to the big corps and rich with tax deals for jobs. It never materializes. Make Amazon pay taxes and open shop like any other companies and they will bring jobs here if they need them. In the end, it will be NY Tax Agency going after middle class for taxes because Amazon will never pay a dime and uses city services and create hardly any jobs here.

There are already thousands of Amazon warehouse worker jobs in NJ/NY area and those hardly contribute to the tax base here. Most workers are making below $35k if they are paid $18/hr warehouse, that's $36k annual income which qualifies for low income subsidies. Hardly helps the tax base here.

All of the tax deals always end up with the job numbers never materialize and the corps got away with never paying a dime in taxes. Similar deals like the Verizon one, they never delivered the FIOS installs as mandated by the Fed.
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Old 03-09-2019, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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I can understand why these politicians pushed back on the Amazon and other deals. Namely because most of "high paying jobs" wouldn't be going to those who live in the communities where these places were setting up shop. In that sense, the people in those communities would be negatively impacted by increased rents, property taxes, etc. that comes with these kind of developments. Still, such a view is short sighted as many of the jobs would still benefits the community, and the tax revenues from these developments would benefit the city/state as a whole.
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Old 03-09-2019, 04:40 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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If these community residents’ only lot in life is to hope for retail-type jobs, then these conpanies are the ones that bring in workers who have achieved and can spend money at shops, restaurants, etc full of low wage workers. These people don’t want jobs though. They want government handouts. And politicians like the psycho bartender and her ilk benefit too much from underclass, unemployed losers to force them to accept otherwise.
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Old 03-09-2019, 04:41 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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At this point I’m just praying NYC can pay my damned pension when I flee all this nonsense!
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