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Old 04-03-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Paper use is down precisely because no one else is banning plastic bags. If other cities adopt it or there is a country-wide ban, it would be an environmental disaster.
Just like if you banned factory farming due to animal cruelty. Maybe a smallish city like SF doing it is fine, but if people do it en masse it would lead to either food shortages or massive environmental consequences as more land would need to be converted into farms. If China, US, and India ban plastic bags, there are no amount of logging ops planting 2 trees or whatever that would compensate for the surge and the sheer volume of paper needed. So replacing plastic with paper is just virtue signaling and is not an environmentally sustainable policy.
So obviously you have stats to back up your claim that paper bags replacing plastic bags would result in X% worldwide increase in paper production
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Old 04-03-2019, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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we should all start carrying thoise plastic plaid laundry bags where ever we go. they are strong and hold a lot of things
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Old 04-03-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: New York City
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we should all start carrying thoise plastic plaid laundry bags where ever we go. they are strong and hold a lot of things
lol I dare you, those are known as "homeless bags"

The non-homeless use Ikea bags
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Old 04-03-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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we should all start carrying thoise plastic plaid laundry bags where ever we go. they are strong and hold a lot of things
NEVER
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Old 04-03-2019, 12:07 PM
 
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lol I dare you, those are known as "homeless bags"

The non-homeless use Ikea bags
I do use these for laundry
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Old 04-03-2019, 12:47 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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we should all start carrying thoise plastic plaid laundry bags where ever we go. they are strong and hold a lot of things
Ugh... Those things are HIDEOUS!! Can you get ones any brighter?!??!
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Old 04-03-2019, 01:48 PM
 
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Just get a little flip and tumble bag that balls up into itself and stick it in your regular bag. $10-$12, lasts several years. Wide range of colors to choose from.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:22 PM
 
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Is all about the money....
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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we should all start carrying thoise plastic plaid laundry bags where ever we go. they are strong and hold a lot of things
The next thing you know, everyone is a suspect of smuggling something
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Old 04-03-2019, 06:05 PM
 
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For paper v plastic debate, I urge you to carefully read this recent NYT article. I also thought that paper is better for the environment but I’ve learned a few things, like:

“On the other hand, paper bags typically require more energy and greenhouse gas emissions to produce, which isn’t great from a global warming standpoint.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/c...e=sectionfront
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