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Old 04-22-2019, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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San Francisco
Oh, yea..I was thinking it might be Oakland, Berkeley, San Jose, Palo Alto, or Sausilito. Damn..I really blew it
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Old 04-22-2019, 06:49 PM
 
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There's no rule you have to stay. Find someplace else you find interesting.

The constant inane stupidity of the liberals running this place is finally going to drive me out, likely sooner than later. I won't look back when i leave.
This is the problem though. Conservatives always want to cut and run. One day you won't have anywhere to run to.

I plan to stay here even if I am the last non-communist in the 5 boroughs. I love cities and NY is the king of cities. To lose NYC completely to ridiculousness would be an enormous blow to the United States as a whole.
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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I keep trying to come up with ways of fighting it. But the basic problem is that conservatives are vastly outnumbered here. That's not going to change.

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This is the problem though. Conservatives always want to cut and run. One day you won't have anywhere to run to.

I plan to stay here even if I am the last non-communist in the 5 boroughs. I love cities and NY is the king of cities. To lose NYC completely to ridiculousness would be an enormous blow to the United States as a whole.
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:32 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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This is the problem though. Conservatives always want to cut and run. One day you won't have anywhere to run to.

I plan to stay here even if I am the last non-communist in the 5 boroughs. I love cities and NY is the king of cities. To lose NYC completely to ridiculousness would be an enormous blow to the United States as a whole.
I want my guns, mountains, and no neighbors. I don't have the time to stick around until NYC has those 3 things.
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:47 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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I want my guns, mountains, and no neighbors. I don't have the time to stick around until NYC has those 3 things.
If they kept the landfill open a few more decades before covering, you could have gotten your mountain and the stench probably would have driven off the neighbors. I think you got the gun part already covered. Man, what paradise that could have been! Better than family and friends!
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:54 AM
 
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I just want this city to have a solid middle class, including lower middle class (since middle class is a broad group encompassing broad lifestyles). Wouldn't it be nice if NYC was a place where a single person making 80K a year can afford a small studio in many semi-central neighborhoods?

Isn't it a little absurd that someone making 100K in NYC is taxed 40K? 20-30 sounds way more reasonable.

Tired of NYC being all poor and all rich
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:40 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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If they kept the landfill open a few more decades before covering, you could have gotten your mountain and the stench probably would have driven off the neighbors. I think you got the gun part already covered. Man, what paradise that could have been! Better than family and friends!
Or I just move.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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If they kept the landfill open a few more decades before covering, you could have gotten your mountain and the stench probably would have driven off the neighbors. I think you got the gun part already covered. Man, what paradise that could have been! Better than family and friends!
Maybe they could have opened a public ski slope that'd give working class NYers a place to indulge in winter sports.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:34 AM
 
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The article itself says that this story is rehashed, and that New Yorkers are typically replaced by immigrants and this is still the trend. A lot of young Americans who move to NYC eventually return home or go elsewhere, to be replaced by other young people. Manhattan is a college town and so are parts of Brooklyn.
Many immigrants are also leaving the city and their relatives join them in these new places instead of NYC. If high rents adversely impact the US born it will definitely impact the new immigrant.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:47 AM
 
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With that said, I tend to assume NYC will get new waves of immigrants, and these trends will continue. It's old people retiring and moving away, working to middle class people movin.

You just gave several reasons why immigrants will not be here. Many are being priced out and as they leave those new immigrants will meet them in their new locales. Given that most aren't in high finance, tech, or media there is no reason for them to be in NYC.

There are already more Haitians in FL than in NY and almost as many Jamaicans. Dominicans are also spreading out around the country as have many of the Russians who came in the early 90s. Asian immigrants cannot wait to move to the suburbs (not necessarily those in NY/NJ) and many Central American immigrants bypass NYC altogether.

And in fact many of the transplants are also leaving, and many of the Millennials are rediscovering the suburbs as the kids arrive. You cannot have expensive housing and expensive private schools, so they leave where at least the house pays for quality schools.

It is no shock that NYC's population is stagnating. NYC will be for the very rich and the state supported poor.
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