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In the Duke Lacrosse case, the Assistant DA (Mike Nifong) who attempted to bring rape charges agains the Duke lacrosse players was disbarred by the North Carolina Bar. He was also ousted from his position and served a very brief stint in jail. This happened swiftly; they didn't have to wait 30 years for justice.
The glaring difference is, the young men involved in the duke lacrosse case were white and accused of raping a black woman, while the central park 5 are black/brown men accused of raping a white woman. https://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/16/u...7F88B1&gwt=pay
The same justice applied in the duke lacrosse case should be done with the attorneys who created such grave injustice to the Central Park 5. Anything less, is a travesty of justice.
I haven't watched the series or the movie from a few years ago. Is the thesis that these five were minding their own business that night and had no involvement in any crime? I know that a guy who had nothing to lose because he was already serving a life sentence came forward and took sole responsibility for the crime and was linked to it with DNA. Does that mean these five could not possibly have been involved?
The group of 30 or so black/brown boys and men in the park, on April 19, 1989, ranged in age from 13 - 23. Some of them were in the park throwing rocks at joggers and cyclists, while others were fighting each other or running from the police, who were attempting to break up the crowd.
The boys/men who were directly involved with accosting cyclists and joggers were all charged and convicted for those attacks, because the cyclists and joggers who were attacked, identified the boys who were involved, during a police line-up. Those identified by the cyclists/joggers were charged with assault/battery, but not with rape, because the assaults occurred on the opposite side of the park, far removed from the vicinity of the park where the rape took place.
The police decided to round up any and all black boys whom they spotted the following day, in Harlem, coming home from school or just walking the neighborhood, who had been identified by others as being in the park, on the night of April 19th.
Corey Wise, the 16 year old who ended up serving the greatest amount of time, wasn't even on the police's list. He got involved, because his friend, Yusef Salaam was stopped by the police and he decided to accompany his friend to the precinct, out of loyalty.
Based on the evidence presented in the case, I don't believe the boys ever came across the jogger, Patricia Meilie. They were in a completely different side of the park that night watching a number of fights transpire and running from the police.
If any of them engaged in throwing rocks at the cyclists/joggers, they should have been charged with menacing and possibly assault, if any of the rocks hit the cyclists/joggers, but none of them were identified during the lineups by the cyclists/joggers who filed police reports.
Regarding Matias Reyes:
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Matias Reyes committed his first known attempted rape in 1988, when he threatened a 27-year-old Jackie Herbach at a church just east of Central Park with a knife. She convinced him not to rape her. The next known attack occurred just two days before the rape and assault of Patricia Meili, on April 17, 1989. Reyes beat and began raping a 26-year-old woman in northern Central Park before fleeing the scene after being spotted by a passerby.
The victim identified her attacker as Hispanic and noted he had fresh stitches on his chin. When the detective assigned to the case checked local hospital record, he found a man fitting the description—Matias Reyes.
The woman left New York shortly afterward and stopped talking to police, and the detective assigned to the case transferred to a different unit. Reyes was never brought in for questioning, and the unsolved case was closed.
His year-long reign of terror would see Reyes go on to attack another five women by forcing his way into their apartments. One of the women, Lourdes Gonzalez, was viciously raped and murdered by Reyes, with him stabbing the then-pregnant mother of three nine times in the chest and abdomen and once in the face at her basement apartment while her children were in the next room.
Reyes was finally caught on August 5, 1989. After raping a woman named Meg (last name withheld for privacy reasons) at her apartment, she managed to flee down three flights of stairs and alert other residents, who set upon him and kept him pinned down in the apartment's lobby until the police arrived. In police custody he confessed to a number of rapes and the murder of Lourdes, receiving a life sentence on November 7, 1991.
The notion that a serial rapist acted in concert with a bunch of inexperienced teens who had no prior arrests and no associations or ties to the serial rapist is absurd.
Matias Reyes is serving a life sentence for murdering/raping women, but he only confessed to the Central Park incident, once he became "born again." He felt it was his duty to not let Corey Wise, whom he met in prison, serve time for a crime that he didn't commit. When he spoke with the police, he provided very specific details regarding when and how the rape occurred. His story corroborated with all of the official evidence. Lastly, and most importantly, his DNA matched the DNA found on the victim's clothing and at the crime scene.
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Until, and no one wants to pay for it,they re open old cases to look for the same sloppy work,will justice ever be had.
There should be repercussions for the legal malpractice that occurred with the prosecution ,LE and everything involved in bagging and shelving innocent people.
Who knows if Rudy the Great had the brown stuff on his shoes during this decade of crap?
The other stuff that went on,with grown sss men ,who have the means of defending themselves is a completely different animal.
Since the Capeman (,pr kid who stabbed and Irish kid in Hells Kitchen), NYC has an attraction to make all colored kids pay .
The video doesn't raise any points that lead to the 5 being involved in the rape. The key take away is, none of their DNA was on Patricia Meilie and none of her blood was on any of their clothing. It would be impossible to partake in a rape and not have any DNA left behind (whatsoever). The only DNA found on Patricia Meili and at the crime scene was the DNA of Matias Reyes.
The 5 were finally exonerated only after Reyes was found guilty of the rape, due to the DNA evidence. This is not a matter of what I think, it's a matter of the evidence and what was finally recognized. Despite however the evidence and the exonerations, NYPD and the prosectors still claim no wrong doing. Something is truly wrong with the "justice system," because it is very skewed with respect to who actually gets "justice."
I can’t believe nobody mentioned Linda Faistein’s Op-Ed in Wall Street journal. It puts Netflix story telling on its head, though I admit the series was very compelling.
Look for clues like , semen on boys clothes, witness testimonies, assault of others.
The video doesn't raise any points that lead to the 5 being involved in the rape. The key take away is, none of their DNA was on Patricia Meilie and none of her blood was on any of their clothing. It would be impossible to partake in a rape and not have any DNA left behind (whatsoever). The only DNA found on Patricia Meili and at the crime scene was the DNA of Matias Reyes.
The 5 were finally exonerated only after Reyes was found guilty of the rape, due to the DNA evidence. This is not a matter of what I think, it's a matter of the evidence and what was finally recognized. Despite however the evidence and the exonerations, NYPD and the prosectors still claim no wrong doing. Something is truly wrong with the "justice system," because it is very skewed with respect to who actually gets "justice."
The use of DNA in law enforcement was in its infancy in 1989. It wasn't even used at all anywhere until the 1980s. You can't compare the sophistication today of DNA evidence to how it could be tested for in 1989. For example, the man convicted of the Howard Beach jogger murder was convicted largely based on "touch DNA" evidence. That technology wasn't available in 1989. If you watched the video, the former officer says the five tried to rape her but weren't able to "perform" thus not leaving bodily fluids in her. Maybe they weren't technically guilty of rape but that wouldn't rule out sexual abuse. Even so, the Howard Beach jogger was sexually abused but no DNA of the convicted killer was found on or in her private parts. So it would seem possible to "partake in a rape (or sexual abuse) and not have any DNA left behind". Consider the Howard Beach case was almost 30 years later with considerable advances in DNA technology and they didn't find his DNA on or in the areas he allegedly abused.
The video also notes that one of the five said he was scratched by the female jogger before there was any mention of a jogger or anyone knew of a connection to the jogger. As far as Reyes, the officer says he had been put in general population in prison where he could be attacked and Korey Wise had people threaten him if he didn't take sole responsibility for the attack.
I can’t believe nobody mentioned Linda Faistein’s Op-Ed in Wall Street journal. It puts Netflix story telling on its head, though I admit the series was very compelling.
Look for clues like , semen on boys clothes, witness testimonies, assault of others.
I cannot believe someone would blindly trust anything just because someone made a film about it
without even trying to learn other side of the story.
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