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Still a better deal for NYC overall. It makes sense that she’d want to at least try to take credit it for it even if her role in it was exaggerated. She’s probably trying to feed into that sentiment and make it sound like she was more prominent in the process than she was.
1,500 is for one new office while Amazon’s corporate headcount in NYC now is already in the thousands. The 25k headcount was over an extended period of a decade once HQ2 is created.
how does this benefit LIC/queens and the local shops and residential areas?
Placing it in LIC isn't much different from having it in Midtown due to its proximity and the infrastructure that serves it except that it's actually more accessible in Midtown with current and near-future infrastructure. Without a firm commitment to a through-running LIRR/NJT line with a station in LIC, this was sort of an odd choice. The only large difference it immediately makes is that there's a less pronounced spike in property values for property owners in the fairly immediate vicinity. Now if the location was out in Jamaica or Broadway Junction, then the ramifications of it are very different as it'd actually be taking up the slack capacity of services going opposite to peak direction.
In the end, I think there's a lot of misinformation or lack of reasonable discourse about what happened. The people who are saying that NYC/NYS were paying Amazon are dumb because those were tax breaks from hitting certain job guidelines--don't hit it, then you don't get the breaks (or the jobs for that matter). That's still a net benefit unless something ridiculous like state and city income taxes going way down happens. However, the terms set were pretty stupid in that they were not necessary as evidenced by competing bids both from the winner and the many other bids that were not selected. This conversation about the addition of "just 1,500 jobs" is also misleading and you'd have to be either dumb or purposefully trying to misdirect in order to believe that's anything more than just the jobs of one specific location in NYC in a narrow span of time when Amazon has evidently been on a corporate hiring spree in NYC and the comparison to HQ2 was 25K jobs over a decade period upon creation. Like, if you compared one person's annual salary to what another person makes over the course of a decade as raw numbers, there's a little bit of mismatch on that basis of a comparison.
so the amazonians are going to go out of their way to LIC's coffee shops in the morning before going to midtown, and on their way home, to supermarkets and mom and pop's stores in LIC, before returning home to manhattan/brooklyn/NJ?
so the amazonians are going to go out of their way to LIC's coffee shops in the morning before going to midtown, and on their way home, to supermarkets and mom and pop's stores in LIC, before returning home to manhattan/brooklyn/NJ?
then your statement about how amazon in midtown is not much different than being in LIC is invalid.
a big deal was made about amazon choosing LIC for an HQ, in that it would bring a boom to the area with all the indirect jobs and businesses it would generate.
then your statement about how amazon in midtown is not much different than being in LIC is invalid.
a big deal was made about amazon choosing LIC for an HQ, in that it would bring a boom to the area with all the indirect jobs and businesses it would generate.
What? I was talking about infrastructure and accessibility. LIC is getting a boom regardless. What mom and pops are you thinking about anyhow? All the ones that don’t own the buildings themselves will be driven out and replaced by more monied retailers, though that’s now on a different timescale. As stated earlier, those who lost out are primarily LIC property owners who would have loved to see property value increases in a faster burst in their immediate neighborhood.
That’s all ancillary to what should be the main metric which is how many Amazon corporate jobs in total will be in NYC within the decade and how close will it be to 25k. Right now, it doesn’t seem too unlikely to hit that mark.
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