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The tale of two cities is about to take off for real now. It's about to go into practice rather than just be a fake white progressive political campaign slogan.
Time to break up the boros into two separate city governments.
The tale of two cities is about to take off for real now. It's about to go into practice rather than just be a fake white progressive political campaign slogan.
Time to break up the boros into two separate city governments.
Cannot be done as Staten Island found out (sadly). No single borough has a strong enough tax base to survive on their own as a separate city.
Brooklyn *might* squeak by, but one sure consequence is largest asset (real estate) would see huge tax increases to make up revenue. Prior to WWII when Brooklyn had tons of industry/manufacturing as a tax base that would have been different. But like rest of NYC that ship has largely sailed.
Plenty of people do, especially those in two fare zones.
Yep. I go out of my way to not take the subway. And my family and others we know regularly drive into Manhattan, too. Like I wrote, this is going to hurt many poor/working class families.
Cannot be done as Staten Island found out (sadly). No single borough has a strong enough tax base to survive on their own as a separate city.
Brooklyn *might* squeak by, but one sure consequence is largest asset (real estate) would see huge tax increases to make up revenue. Prior to WWII when Brooklyn had tons of industry/manufacturing as a tax base that would have been different. But like rest of NYC that ship has largely sailed.
Manhattan could be one city, and the Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island and Nassau County could be a separate city. Tale of two cities, so might as well make it what it is.
Manhattan could be one city, and the Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island and Nassau County could be a separate city. Tale of two cities, so might as well make it what it is.
Long Island isn't part of NYC now, why would Nassau county want to get itself mixed up with that hot mess.
Staten Island if it could (largely) wants nothing to do with rest of city and that includes being saddled with Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens.
Outside of Manhattan SI has one of the highest income levels per household, while Bronx is lowest. Again you'd have to have the same Robin Hood nonsense that goes on now but on steroids to make it work.
Manhattan in theory might be able to survive as a stand alone city, but considering how a large part of workforce commutes from the outer boroughs there are issues which would need to be addressed. Commuter tax was long ago repealed and since politicians from the four boroughs that would now create the city you suggest would out number Manhattan, chances of it being reinstated would be nil to none.
Long Island isn't part of NYC now, why would Nassau county want to get itself mixed up with that hot mess.
Staten Island if it could (largely) wants nothing to do with rest of city and that includes being saddled with Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens.
Outside of Manhattan SI has one of the highest income levels per household, while Bronx is lowest. Again you'd have to have the same Robin Hood nonsense that goes on now but on steroids to make it work.
Manhattan in theory might be able to survive as a stand alone city, but considering how a large part of workforce commutes from the outer boroughs there are issues which would need to be addressed. Commuter tax was long ago repealed and since politicians from the four boroughs that would now create the city you suggest would out number Manhattan, chances of it being reinstated would be nil to none.
In conclusion, the patricians need the plebs
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CP hasn't even begun and already that money is being spent. Where do you think Fredo's big brother and MTA are getting money for that just announced class of 500 MTA police?
Even with CP MTA is busted, with huge deficits predicted for each of foreseeable future fiscal years. Congestion pricing revenue will be just like every other tax, fee, surcharge, toll, etc.. that state shakes people down for; will vanish into the black hole that is Albany/state budget.
After everyone gets their taste some of what is left will make its way into MTA schemes/plans, but anyone who is thinking CP will mean end of fare increases or whatever wants their heads examined.
Long Island isn't part of NYC now, why would Nassau county want to get itself mixed up with that hot mess.
Staten Island if it could (largely) wants nothing to do with rest of city and that includes being saddled with Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens.
Outside of Manhattan SI has one of the highest income levels per household, while Bronx is lowest. Again you'd have to have the same Robin Hood nonsense that goes on now but on steroids to make it work.
Manhattan in theory might be able to survive as a stand alone city, but considering how a large part of workforce commutes from the outer boroughs there are issues which would need to be addressed. Commuter tax was long ago repealed and since politicians from the four boroughs that would now create the city you suggest would out number Manhattan, chances of it being reinstated would be nil to none.
Because Nassau County has got it's own hot mess going on. Plus it has high income earners. Maybe higher than Staten Island.
A lot of the Manhattan jobs will move to Queens and Brooklyn. We'll all have better commutes, and best of all, no tax just to do it.
Nobody needs the NYC type of "plebs". The "patricians" can move wherever they want, and the "plebs" can then go fly a Detroit kite... even though NYC tax authorities are like an ex-boyfriend who can't understand he has been dumped - they keep stalking every rich person (or not even rich, just income-earning) who moves out of NY, hoping they can find something that still links the ex-New Yorker to NY, and can be used as a reason for taxation by NY :-).
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