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When they start getting mugged, they'll be screaming for Giuliani time to come back.
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Originally Posted by DonaldJTrump
white lieberals do not care if criminals are roaming around and support this because they live in their own secured condos, and they see any crime as just part and parcel with city living and they can always go back to the midwest where they came from if things go bad.
I can't help but wonder if you've read any of the articles of all the disasters visited upon minor criminals, or non-criminals - such as Kalief Browder, whose tragedy was a trigger for this movement.
This is true because the system will hold someone until they are charged and post bail. If they can't afford bail they have to wait til a prosecutor reviews the charges whether the person should be free or held to be formally charged. Epstein was held for pending charges. Once formally charged he was deemed a flight risk and held awaiting for trial. The bail reform is too broad without any study or merit. Basically anyone who commits a non violent crime can get out and skip out on bail hearing.
Last edited by vision33r; 08-13-2019 at 06:48 PM..
Did anybody here bother to read these articles? Even the NY Post actually had something accurate in it (Even a stopped clock...)
"...A key measure of the bill — which takes effect next year — eliminates cash bail for anyone charged with a misdemeanor or non-violent felony.."
In other words, anyone arrested for a violent felony is still subject to bail. The streets will NOT be overrun with gangbangers, wife-beaters, arsonists, and muggers because a judge has been forced to free them before trial. This is for misdemeanors and non-violent felonies only. So everyone take a chill pill. It'll still be safe to go outside.
Last edited by citylove101; 08-13-2019 at 07:08 PM..
Giuliani the person isn't coming back. I think he likes his life the way it is.
I'm talking about Giuliani the cocept. Not going along to get along. Letting the cops do what the need to do to bring the criminal class to heel. Some younger guy, maybe a prosecutor who wants to move up, who'll make crime the key issue at just the right time.
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Originally Posted by Cida
Don't count on it.
Even if Giuliani hadn't been disgracing himself lately, I can't think of anything that would make me want him to return.
The end of cash bail for misdemeanors and non-violent felonies is a step forward! Cash bail and monitoring are huge contributors to our two-track criminal "justice" system.
No one deserves to be jailed over parking tickets or accusations of shoplifting sneakers but that happens all of the time. And for non-white defendants it can be a death sentence.
If I swipe a pair of sunglasses at Rite Aid, I would be able to post bail before dinner, my nanny would handle the kids and my lawyer would have it dismissed in minutes. Someone who can't make bail can end up losing their job, their children and their home without ever seeing a trial. It's a clear violation of the Fifth Amendment and I'm glad that states are beginning to address the injustice.
What about women in domestic relationships that wont have enough time to get away because their abusive SO is out of jail in 24 hours. Or the gang fight that broke out, that let every rival gang member stay on the street to kill someone.
Shootings/murders will go up dramatically because now ppl wont have time to cool off in a jail cell to think about their next steps like before
Are those low level misdemeanors or non-violent felonies?
^ How about not swiping the pair of sunglasses at Rite Aid to begin with, then you wouldn't need bail?
You've just proven the point that this will just lead to more crime, including theft of sunglasses at Rite Aid.
What if I'm only accused and didn't steal anything? Would you say it is okay to hold me without a trial? Of course not. And our legal system says that it isn't acceptable to hold anyone without a trial because their guilt isn't established. Everyone is innocent before a verdict is rendered.
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