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Old 08-07-2013, 06:06 PM
 
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Hi guys,

My building administrator slipped a notice under our door today citing Local Law 11 in mandating that my roommate and I install brackets for our window AC units. I have lived in this building for over five years without brackets for my AC, but they are suddenly saying we must pay to have this work done, pay the super $75 per unit to do it, or be subject to a $500 fine.

There is nothing in my lease that references this, and to my knowledge (read: quick internet research), Local Law 11 only mandates brackets for ACs in buildings six stories or higher. My building is five stories tall, and I'd estimate about 75% of the AC units installed do NOT currently have brackets (I noticed similar notices under the doors of most tenants on my walk up the staircase this afternoon).

If I were staying here for a long time I wouldn't consider this too much of an issue, but I plan on moving out when my lease expires eight months from now. So I certainly do not want to pay $75 for a service that I don't want, when I'm sure they'll charge me again to remove the brackets eight months from now.

Does anyone have any experience with this matter? I'm really not quite sure what to do.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:24 PM
 
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Hi guys,

My building administrator slipped a notice under our door today citing Local Law 11 in mandating that my roommate and I install brackets for our window AC units. I have lived in this building for over five years without brackets for my AC, but they are suddenly saying we must pay to have this work done, pay the super $75 per unit to do it, or be subject to a $500 fine.

There is nothing in my lease that references this, and to my knowledge (read: quick internet research), Local Law 11 only mandates brackets for ACs in buildings six stories or higher. My building is five stories tall, and I'd estimate about 75% of the AC units installed do NOT currently have brackets (I noticed similar notices under the doors of most tenants on my walk up the staircase this afternoon).

If I were staying here for a long time I wouldn't consider this too much of an issue, but I plan on moving out when my lease expires eight months from now. So I certainly do not want to pay $75 for a service that I don't want, when I'm sure they'll charge me again to remove the brackets eight months from now.

Does anyone have any experience with this matter? I'm really not quite sure what to do.
Print out the Local Law, and highlight the part that state buildings six stories and over need then, and then slip it under their door. Problem solved.
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:47 PM
 
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That happened to me in a building I was living in. I got it in July and was moving out the end of September, I had to pay $40 to the super. I decided $40 to the Super plus $30 for the bracket was worth the AC for the couple of months. And would be a lot cheaper then a fine, I might face. Think of it that way is not paying $75 worth risking paying $500. It's like playing the lotto, up to you man.
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:15 AM
 
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Our co-op is charging $20 to buy and install brackets for window units but I have through the wall. Our handymen do the installs.
I cannot understand why some have the sleeve through the wall and still use a window unit? But people can be goofy.

Friend in Queens just paid $200 to have 2 units secured. Her super is paying himself well.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:03 PM
 
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Print out the Local Law, and highlight the part that state buildings six stories and over need then, and then slip it under their door. Problem solved.
This. And if I wanted to be really annoying, I'd slip them under every door so that everyone knows they're going to be ripped off.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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Can you install the brackets yourself? It is not rocket science.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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For purposes of LL11, THEY COUNT THE BASEMENT. I know, this makes no sense, but they do. If you think your building management is playing a fast one, ask to see their engineer's LL11 report.
And if the building is included under LL11, unless there's something in your lease that stipulates that you can't, you should have the option of installing the bracket yourself.

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Old 08-08-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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My landlord did it for free.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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My landlord did it for free.
Mine too. But I tipped him cause he did a top notch job.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:43 PM
 
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For purposes of LL11, THEY COUNT THE BASEMENT. I know, this makes no sense, but they do. If you think your building management is playing a fast one, ask to see their engineer's LL11 report.
And if the building is included under LL11, unless there's something in your lease that stipulates that you can't, you should have the option of installing the bracket yourself.
From what I read, the law applies if your building is greater than six stories or your building is six stories over a basement.
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