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Old 09-02-2019, 03:05 PM
 
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Dead perp... no hurt cops... awesome outcome!
You forgot no innocent civilians. He didn’t get to slaughter the public. And yes I agree with you.
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Old 09-02-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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When Giuliani Locke’s people in prison for weed possession, that left children at home without their parents. Not to mention I’ve they get out of prison they can be legally denied employment. So the war on drugs created whole new groups of criminals. So did arresting women for prostitution.
I agree to a point, but blaming someone for your misfortune will not get you anywhere. If you are looking for government to help out a generational problem of yours you are nuts.

Get an education, get a job, and start paying mortgage like every other slave in this country.
Problem is, too many of these morons watched a Scarface and want to be Tony Montana here.
Plenty of fathers didn’t sell drugs to be put away in jail for 20 years leaving their kids behind. Most of them actually.
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Old 09-02-2019, 04:28 PM
 
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You forgot no innocent civilians. He didn’t get to slaughter the public. And yes I agree with you.
Well to be fair, he was shooting at the cops from the start. I didn’t leave out civilians for any other reason. Of course thankfully no one died besides the scum.
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:01 PM
 
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And I am saying it will NEVER revert to those days. when all the neighborhoods that have mostly gentrified become high crime areas again, you let me know.
Never say never. NYC took step one by electing a socialist mayor who is anti cop. Don't be so sure that things can't return to about 1990 when the city was dangerous in a lot of areas. I say 1990 because I'm familiar with it then - and it was probably worse than that in 1970 or 1980
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:33 PM
 
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Never say never. NYC took step one by electing a socialist mayor who is anti cop. Don't be so sure that things can't return to about 1990 when the city was dangerous in a lot of areas. I say 1990 because I'm familiar with it then - and it was probably worse than that in 1970 or 1980
Lol

When people stop using their iPhones and Androidsin plain view on the train, you let me know.....from Pennsylvania

As a matter of fact, when it gets that dangerous that anybody on this forum stops using their smartphone in public, let me know
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:59 PM
 
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The vid says 64 rounds unloaded onto suspect. Does the NYPD need to convert to 10mm auto or something? Has more stopping power.
Modern ammunition technology makes anything bigger than 9MM obsolete IMO
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:07 PM
 
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To an extent, yes. The myth that .45 ACP is a “soul killer” has been thoroughly busted. There is still an argument for 10mm and .357 Mag though as being far superior handgun rounds to 9mm.
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:15 PM
 
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Glad you know

My question is why do people who live in low crime areas worry about crime in high crime areas?? LOL

Somebody answer that one for me

You too, should look into moving somewhere more homogenous maybe...?

It's quite the phenomenon on here

How come nobody posts about crime in the actual neighborhoods they live in?

It's like how there's a car accident and everybody slows down to watch

People from high crime area go to low crime areas to cause crime. Yes moving to a low crime area is the answer. But for some reason I'm not saying it always happen, high crime people tend to follow law abiding citizen to low crime area to cause crime.








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The vid says 64 rounds unloaded onto suspect. Does the NYPD need to convert to 10mm auto or something? Has more stopping power.

I wouldn't mind if it was 1000 rounds.


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History shows that Draconian and unnecessary laws always seem to bring more crime. All it does is create hostility between denizens and authority.

New York City will always have some type of crime, especially with the type of inequality that you see here and the large number of people. I will say the crack era is long gone I don’t think cities are going back to that time and now the opioid crisis is treated with some outrage and sympathy. It wasn’t that way 20 years ago.

No one should be locked up for drinking in the streets if they’re not harming other people, pissing in the streets is nasty so I disagree here but it’s for the most part drunk and homeless people who do that and unless you want NYC to be a completely sober place which is not going to happen.

I’ve been in situations where I couldn’t pay train or bus fare and with the increase in fare I still don’t think you’ll see increase in people not paying. Just more beggars.

I do think that people often want laws and authority that caters to them specifically but when it comes to others they take a different stance.



I guess NYC is the exception to that draconian laws. When Giuliani and Bloomberg started enforcing laws, NYC became much safer than it was in the 80s and 90s.


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Time to gentrify that area. Enough of this crap.

Stats show gentrification lowers crime.
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Old 09-03-2019, 04:46 AM
 
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The vid says 64 rounds unloaded onto suspect. Does the NYPD need to convert to 10mm auto or something? Has more stopping power.
it is not a stopping power problem as much as it is a missing the target problem when under stress fire . punching holes in paper or hitting metal plates is very different from the real thing . nypd produces a firearm discharge report . it shows hit ratio's and they are constantly quite poor .

10mm is not a good defense round . it is to over penetrating for most applications unless shooting through barriers . .45 and .357 have much better track records .

it is not usually the wound that stops someone . so an over penetrating round does not do a whole lot of stopping until the bad guy bleeds out enough . you want the round to stay contained in the body . the energy then disrupts the nervous system . so you don't want the round to go in and come out . even hitting a bad guy in the heart will have him live long enough to cover 20 ft and hack you to death or stab you before he goes down .

our combat training taught us to deal with hand weapons within 20ft by aiming for the pelvis area . it is a nice wide area and shattering it can make it impossible to carry out the attack unlike even a heart shot .

that is why the 9mm is a military round . it has a high rate of wounding . wounding slows an enemy down and takes resources to care for them . killing a enemy does not slow the remaining enemy down like wounding does . so the 9mm is a high speed over penetrating round for a reason . but for police work it is a poor choice in my opinion .. my own preference is a .40 caliber . it is a popular law enforcement round in many states but not in nyc . .

it has ballistics similar to a .45 but holds as many rounds as a 9mm .

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Old 09-03-2019, 05:27 AM
 
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Lol

When people stop using their iPhones and Androidsin plain view on the train, you let me know.....from Pennsylvania

As a matter of fact, when it gets that dangerous that anybody on this forum stops using their smartphone in public, let me know

I don't use my phone in public in NYC or anywhere. In most places, I keep it shut off and locked, in airplane mode, in a money belt. I travel a lot, so am used to money belt, and treat it as a regular underwear item. I am thin and generally wear loose clothes, so nothing bulges out and nobody can tell where the phone is.


But I agree that a city has a crime problem when people cannot pull out their phone in public. In a decent civilized place, everyone should be able to do that. It is not a moral duty of regular citizens to constantly look out for possible crime - it is a moral duty of all citizens to not commit crime. Your statements are a prime example of what I find so appaling: constant protection of criminals and people who are an active nuisance to other people, with the bizarre assumption that crime and nuisance are somehow natural and "endearing" components of black/brown culture.

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