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Chat with your GOP friends about the fact that one can buy a gun in Red states as easily as one can buy a carton of milk. Gambling dispute can bad INSIDE a building. Can even happen inside Trump Towers!
Better punish those law abiding citizens more since certain neighborhoods with illegal after-hours gambling halls can’t seem to stop committing gun crimes with illegal guns!
Also, please give an example of something like this happening in Trump Tower.
Lead is in its own universe as a toxin that massively affects cerebral developmental skills, it's completely irrelevant to compare it to carcinogens, ceiling tiles have absolutely nothing to do with this
Okay, I'll grant you that comparison between carcinogens and neurotoxins is irrelevant when discussing brain development, but my point with mentioning ceiling tiles was that some incredibly unlikely health hazards (such as lead) are being maximally popularized just because of the perception that the poor and minorities were somehow more exposed to lead (which they weren't)... while everybody complacently sits in their office (or plays in their kindergarten) under things that are a far larger threat to health.
Mother Jones is not a science journal. The "accurate correlation" (btw, what is an inaccurate correlation?) between serum lead levels and crime is entirely meaningless, considering that you could make the same correlation between serum lead levels and the frequency of wearing bell-bottom pants (actually, that correlation would be much closer, because around the time when lead levels went to almost zero, the incidence of wearing bell-bottoms also went to almost zero, while crime certainly did NOT go to almost zero) - it is a temporal coincidence which in no way proves causation.
Far more meaningful is the fact that everyone growing up in the 1970s had higher lead levels in the 1970s than now, yet the overwhelming majority of people thus exposed are neither retarded nor criminal.
Also note that the lead levels have dropped greatly, while crime has dropped but not so greatly - ie, the graphs for lead and crime do not correlate at all in the recent years.
Better punish those law abiding citizens more since certain neighborhoods with illegal after-hours gambling halls can’t seem to stop committing gun crimes with illegal guns!
Also, please give an example of something like this happening in Trump Tower.
The majority of guns in NYC that have been confiscated after apprehending criminals were initially obtained legally and then criminally brought into NYC. The thing is, the majority of those guns were initially sold, legally, in states that have very lax gun control laws like Ohio and Florida. Gun control could work, but it’s only effective to a certain point when there are lax gun laws in other states which is why there’s been a push for stricter gun control laws on a federal level.
Chat with your GOP friends about the fact that one can buy a gun in Red states as easily as one can buy a carton of milk. Gambling dispute can bad INSIDE a building. Can even happen inside Trump Towers!
Opinion: Agreed. Nobody goes to jail dead!
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And where are your stats disputing this? The Koch era was the most dangerous in NYCs history yet I bet you will scream that he was a good mayor! Crime under Bloomberg and under De Blasio is lower than it was under Ghouliani.
Opinion: Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani did what no other mayor was able to accomplish.
Drop crime by almost 50% and keep it at that level through out his tenure. No
other Mayor has been able to accomplish that feat within the population density
of this large metropolis. Got to give credit where credit is due.
The OP was the one bringing in the specter of the 70s. Yea, crime should be lower--the rates should be nil. However, someone responding to the OP's comparison isn't "a parade of CD naysayers."
OP asked for intelligent discourse, but set it up in a not terribly intelligent way.
The question should be that since low-hanging fruits like getting rid of leaded gasoline and legalized abortion is already plucked, what can be done to further reduce crime in the city as the drop has hit a stasis of sorts. That's a fine topic, but then you've got posters saying dumb things like their comparisons to the 70s.
Excerpt: OP asked for intelligent discourse, but set it up in a not terribly intelligent way.
Opinion: I'll be sure to intern sound judgement for you next post ......meantime....1 potato ...2 potato...3 potato 4...
Excerpt:
There is another alternative hypothesis that has gained a lot more traction due to it corresponding well to both the initial ratcheting up of crime and then the subsequent drop of crime--and again, on a national level for urban areas of which Giuliani was mayor for just one and came into office while crime rates had already started dropping. That hypothesis is the lead-crime hypothesis which is that the massive rise in consumption of leaded gasoline for cars up until it was outlawed was a heavily contributing factor to crime rates.
Opinion: I normally enjoy your posts but this.....Hypothesis supposition on limited evidence.......... please....next we will be blaming the drinking water....
The majority of guns in NYC that have been confiscated after apprehending criminals were initially obtained legally and then criminally brought into NYC. The thing is, the majority of those guns were initially sold, legally, in states that have very lax gun control laws like Ohio and Florida. Gun control could work, but it’s only effective to a certain point when there are lax gun laws in other states which is why there’s been a push for stricter gun control laws on a federal level.
You probably don’t have any clue about this but you just described a straw purchase, which is already illegal. So tell me again why law abiding Americans should lose rights because of criminals in another state which doesn’t even prosecute crimes or put repeat criminals in jail.
The majority of guns in NYC that have been confiscated after apprehending criminals were initially obtained legally and then criminally brought into NYC. The thing is, the majority of those guns were initially sold, legally, in states that have very lax gun control laws like Ohio and Florida. Gun control could work, but it’s only effective to a certain point when there are lax gun laws in other states which is why there’s been a push for stricter gun control laws on a federal level.
Opinion: The Second Amendment:
The right of the people to keep and bear arms,shall not be infringed.
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