BedStuy endgame

[Relaxx]

Originally Posted by prospectheightsresident

If by gentrification you are referring to changing demographics (to include racial and socioeconomic) and the amenities that arrive to suit new tastes, then I say Bed Stuy will never be Park Slope . . . Fort Greene is much more likely. There are many black brownstone owners who refuse to sell their properties and view Bed Stuy as their home base. And so long as increasing rents make it likely to make good rental income, I don't see this changing. And, quite frankly, I prefer the diversity of Fort Greene to Park Slope in any case.

But, boy, things have changed in Bed Stuy. I can recall growing up in Bed Stuy when the first non black family moved onto our street (this was in the mid 1990s); they were Puerto Rican. This was big news.

A Puerto Rican family moving to Bed-stuy? This was big news?

[Relaxx]

Originally Posted by Grabandgo

Black population in west Harlem is below 25% now, and losing about 1% point a year.
and that include all the people int eh grant houses.


10031



White alone 10,711 17.2%
Black or African American alone 15,176 24.3%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 31,640 50.7%
Asian alone 2,359 3.8%

And that data is from 2017 the real number should be around 20% by now.

https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...w.xhtml?src=CF


west Harlem is mostly Hispanic

No person who is actually from Harlem calls it “West Harlem.” Its often just sometimes called Morningside Heights and not west Harlem.

The area around Broadway has been mostly Dominican for a while and parts of That area has always usually had students from Columbia or CUNY.

[prospectheightsresident]

Originally Posted by Relaxx

A Puerto Rican family moving to Bed-stuy? This was big news?

On my block, yes. Again, the block and surrounding area was so non-racially diverse that things like this were big news. But Bed Stuy is huge. If you lived in other parts of the neighborhood at the time--particularly closer to the Bushwick border where you had a sizable Puerto Rican population pre-gentrification--this wouldn't be the case. But I lived in the SW corner of Bed Stuy, in what is now the Bedford Historic District.

[Russianleo777]

Originally Posted by Foamposite

Asians are doing their own gentrification in several neighborhoods. Look at how expensive neighborhoods like Bensonhurst and Flushing are getting. And how many higher end restaurants have been popping up there.

That is 100% correct. Property values in Bensonhurst skyrocket because of Asian influx

[roseba]

Originally Posted by UrbanQuest

Not sure if it has been asked before, but here you go.

Do you think Bed Stuy will ultimately become like
Park Slope? If so what would your guess be for demographics?
To graduate from gentrified to yuppyville whites would have to
make up at least 50% of the population. IMO

Park Slope was going gentrified in the 1970s.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by Shoshanarose

When I worked on Ralph Avenue in Bed Stuy in the early to mid-2000's I never saw another white person the whole year I worked there. Seriously.
People used to speak to me in Spanish, because - as a white person - I think they assumed I MUST be Puerto Rican if I was in that neighborhood!

Demographics in NYC can change very rapidly. Mid 2000s demographics are almost irrelevant. Williamsburg hadn't even really gentrified in the timeframe you're speaking of(it was in the early stages) much less Bedstuy.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by Relaxx

No person who is actually from Harlem calls it “West Harlem.” Its often just sometimes called Morningside Heights and not west Harlem.

The area around Broadway has been mostly Dominican for a while and parts of That area has always usually had students from Columbia or CUNY.

The Dominicans were being rapidly displaced when I moved out in 2017. The area from 134-155th or so is Hamilton Heights. 125 to 135th has been bought out by Columbia, which the exception of the projects and a giant co-op building.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by SeventhFloor

It's going to taken longer simply because Bed-Stuy is one of the largest neighborhoods in Brooklyn by land area.

In 2015 I saw white people in big numbers at the Utica Avenue station, something which would not have happened ten years earlier. And that's four years ago. It won't take long.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by Mr.Retired

Opinion:
Just did some shopping up Broadway to Myrtle covering parts of Bed Stuy/Williamsburg/Bushwick.
My heart cried. I knew this neighborhood as a kid. Shopping, eats, you name it. The folks that resided
back then were poor but never pigs. Folks use to sweep in front of their stores and storefronts. Garbage now
littering corners,in streets and Graffiti ( so called art ) creating a panoramic background. A truly disturbing picture
of deeper despair. Don't worry. I was in disbelief to see couple of newly constructed low income buildings sprayed over
in graffiti. Gentrification..........I wish I could say something positive but ...sick to my stomach. Not in any time soon Pal.
Not any time soon................

Gentrification already happened. Didn't you just realize that LIC has super gentrified (which is old news now)?


Under els trains is generally kind of busted. Williamsburg itself has a Whole Foods, an Apple store, the kinds of retailers that come only to the city's wealthiest communities.

As for Bedstuy itself, after Williamsburg became super expensive, then you had lots of white people moving as as Williamsburg became unaffordable for many.

[Grabandgo]

Originally Posted by Relaxx

No person who is actually from Harlem calls it “West Harlem.” Its often just sometimes called Morningside Heights and not west Harlem.

The area around Broadway has been mostly Dominican for a while and parts of That area has always usually had students from Columbia or CUNY.

10031 is not morningside heighs.