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Originally Posted by ThatCareerGuy
You are a smart guy, however there is still a lot intellectual laziness, faux-romantiscism and unwillingness to do basic research on your part which is leading you to overly simplify the problems which have plagued that area. With each of your points.
Excerpt#1:
Exactly what "choices" did the newcomers have in that particular area
Excerpt#2:
You are oversimplifying and romanticizing about the past.
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serve the residents of the area so long as they "stayed in their lane".
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doesn't suit your opinion.
Here is Kriyas Joel in Orange County, NY today. The demographic who controlled and dominated Brownsville before the "Demographic Change" now control this area. This is what the area has looked like in recent years.
No shortage of news stories on corruption and welfare fraud for this town in NY. Do you refer to them as pigs? Or do they get a pass because they don't look like current residents of Brownsville?
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Opnion: Thank you for observing my opinion. Discourse will be mutually respected.
Opinion #1
I am well acquainted with the many stories of hardship especially from arrivals to this country.
" Coming to this country with no shoes on my feet and pennies in my pocket. "
I am also aware of some of my relatives that failed to make it here and returned back home.
It is a sink or swim. You can not dog paddle for generations.....without eventually drowning.
Opinion#2
Living in the past for anybody who struggled was not simple. It was a struggle.
First generation born Child of non English speaking Immigrants was a challenge
but my family worked hard to fit in and take things one step further by showing they
cared just as much if not more of being American. It could be a simple hello, sweeping
the sidewalk, picking up debris in the street and disposing of it. They taught me to lead by example.
Opinion#3
As a minority Italian in an all German and Irish neighborhood I felt to often the non acceptance of others
not because of skin color but because of ethnicity. We battled our way out of our lane and blended with others
through assimilation. IT took a couple of beatings but eventually I won over countless friends who in the end treated
me like family. This is evident in many cultures. I never realized while studying the Empire of the African Culture, tribes
were also bigoted towards other tribes for having lighter skin color or not speaking in the same dialect. This is just the result
of the human condition to survive. Not taking any chances until I get to know you.Such an eye opener.
Opinion#4
There are many topics of discussion not suitable as is apparent in some of the responses received but nevertheless
I respect them. I must admit it is almost comical reading (again my opinion) some posts with a carry no mustard defense.
Opinion#5:
Kriyas Joel is in Orange County...N.Y.
This is a little tricky. It can appear as a baited question in order to label me but I'll explore it as an honest question.
My parents had a saying "We may be poor but we are not pigs ". I lived by that creed and still do to this day.
If I were a member of Kriyas Joel community as a participant of Shomrim ( neighborhood watch group ) and was witness to littering that person or persons would have heard the words my parents taught me. The community would have my full attention. What you do in your own home is your business. What you do outside the home is the community's business. As a resident of the 5 boroughs you can not voice an opinion in some neighborhoods for fear of loss of life for complaining ,calling the cops,getting involved.Brownsville and its' inhabitants are to be held accountable. Finally...Kriyas Joel outside of the 5 boroughs ( I call that upstate ) if truly a filthy place, I hope there is someone living within the county with the passion to stir the bees nest and reactivate the community in making the necessary creed to commitment "We may be poor but we are not pigs."
Again ,only the community and its' inhabitants can be held accountable....No one gets a free pass.
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