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Old 11-19-2019, 03:41 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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YUP, I remember when the PBA sold out their young in contract negotiations. It was ugly and self-serving.
Tier 3 was not created via contract negotiations.
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:11 PM
 
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Tier 3 was not created via contract negotiations.
OK, perhaps, but I remember the headline when it happened. Same difference. Sold out the young.
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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No, not the same difference. Intentional distortions like what you just wrote are why our country is so messed up nowadays.

Governor Patterson refused to sign the extensive of Tier 2 that governors had signed for decades. That’s how Tier 3 came about. The PBA (and all other public service unions) fought his decision vehemently.

So no, not the same thing at all. The PBA did not create or endorse Tier 3. A democrat governor who found himself in power due to a sex scandal created Tier 3.

No one is served well by intentional distortions of facts.
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:26 PM
 
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No, not the same difference. Intentional distortions like what you just wrote are why our country is so messed up nowadays.

Governor Patterson refused to sign the extensive of Tier 2 that governors had signed for decades. That’s how Tier 3 came about. The PBA (and all other public service unions) fought his decision vehemently.

So no, not the same thing at all. The PBA did not create or endorse Tier 3. A democrat governor who found himself in power due to a sex scandal created Tier 3.

No one is served well by intentional distortions of facts.
And Mike Bloomberg had governor Patterson's back!

Let's see him apologize his way out of that!

https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2...g-unions-fire/
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:37 PM
 
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You know, the BS just keeps going on and on....

Tax the poorest or the ones that struggles the most, for trying to earn a living. That's logic for you.

Kids selling candy bars,walking car to car, to try and earn some bread , it's a good thing. At least they ain't doing serious crime.

Someone's mom, pitching in so the family can keep life going,its a good thing and a necessity to survive. At least she's not doing serious humiliating crime.

But hey,it's the subway, MTA ,no you cant.... let's tax the poor with tickets, and keep our big salaries.
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:47 AM
 
Location: New York City
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How much $$$ has this churro lady and this single incident costed tax payers? Behind the scenes, tally it all up. There are significant hidden costs.

I'm telling you right now the immigrants will now use these churro ladies as professional plaintiffs to sue. They can just take the lawsuit money to fund more of their family to come over and make a business from suing the city and MTA with frivolous insanity. When it is done they will just open another construction company that only hires more undocumented workers.

Churro lady was just peddling treats, now she is an economic parasite to the USA.

If you really think they are "poor immigrants" I do not buy it. She was not living on the streets. None of the undocumented are on the streets. And by the looks of it she is definitely not starving to death.

One thing I keep wondering..... Is she in the USA illegally? Did she get deported? Is she still in jail?

It's interesting how people pour over somebody here breaking laws all over the place, then when a USA vet is on the streets and homeless you ignore them and support Affirmative Action hiring to keep vets unemployed.

The churro lady is a total BSer. Nothing innocent about it anymore. She is T r o u b l e.
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Old 11-20-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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She ain't on the streets, no talk of homelessness, shelter,illegal status or have I read it wrong?
Churro lady can give thanks to her cooking skills for it. She can thank her mindset of being a part of earning.
Our true americans turn to working for some rich guy or dealing drugs, playing the system,or some other crap.

Selling churros>
drugs,prostituttion,scamming the gobermint, no?

Churro lady's problem was going into the train station and not outside .

And this health certificate and people getting sick is pure BS. Legal street vendors store their cart in garages full of crumbs and vermin. They are self certified on a honor system. And people still get sick.
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Old 11-20-2019, 01:36 PM
 
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Churro lady's problem was going into the train station and not outside .

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Exactly. So she and the others should just stay out of the MTA system. Why is that so hard?

They can look to the Arepa Lady as an example. (Maybe she had permits -- who knows). But her story was that she was a lawyer from Colombia who came here not able to work as a lawyer anymore due to whatever problems, like English language, passing the bar, etc. so she set up a stand selling arepas on the street. She became so popular that now she has her own full fledged Aprea Lady restaurant.

There's plenty of opportunity on the street so just go there. No reason to clog up the MTA passageways with illegal carts. The outside is a much larger place and most likely less prone to being ticketed by cops (although I'm sure that it happens sometimes outside too).

All the illegal clogging up, bothersome "entrepreneurship" BS in the subway is really annoying to paying customers who are just trying to commute and get to where they're going in peace.
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Old 11-20-2019, 02:16 PM
 
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Exactly. So she and the others should just stay out of the MTA system. Why is that so hard?

They can look to the Arepa Lady as an example. (Maybe she had permits -- who knows). But her story was that she was a lawyer from Colombia who came here not able to work as a lawyer anymore due to whatever problems, like English language, passing the bar, etc. so she set up a stand selling arepas on the street. She became so popular that now she has her own full fledged Aprea Lady restaurant.

There's plenty of opportunity on the street so just go there. No reason to clog up the MTA passageways with illegal carts. The outside is a much larger place and most likely less prone to being ticketed by cops (although I'm sure that it happens sometimes outside too).

All the illegal clogging up, bothersome "entrepreneurship" BS in the subway is really annoying to paying customers who are just trying to commute and get to where they're going in peace.
Woman was a judge in Columbia and came here in 1980's were immigration was a bit loser. She like others worked the system and thus has been allowed to remain.

In any event the mother long since retired, her son or sons are behind new restaurant.

NYC’S Sainted Arepa Lady Has Retired for Now


https://qns.com/story/2019/04/12/cro...r-second-year/
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:14 PM
 
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People unlicensed and unlawfully selling food in subways were told to take a walk by NYPD. After several warnings to which vendors pretty much responded "go pound salt"; the cuffs came out. Now every SJW from Brooklyn to Bronx has yet another thing to be woke about.


https://gothamist.com/news/nypd-arre...life-crackdown

Leaving aside these people are illegals, no one knows where food and drinks they are selling come from, how they are prepared, and so forth. Anyone could get sick and there wouldn't be any recourse.
About 10 years ago, a coworker I worked with at a restaurant knew someone who sold Mexican food from a cart. She used her bathtub as a giant mixing bowl.
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