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Old 02-21-2020, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Has Rev. Al come out yet to defend the kids?

oh, I hadn't thought of that,



your right,



where is that idiot???



he should be surfacing soon.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:11 AM
 
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Has Rev. Al come out yet to defend the kids?
What's there to defend? I'm all for the "proven in a court of law" business, but it's not looking good for these kids. Even the uncle of the one that got most recently arrested, check out his comments on the situation, there were 2 stories about him in the Post over the last 2 days.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:17 AM
 
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DeBlasio would argue it's the system's fault for taking fathers away from these poor souls that caused them to turn to crime. We should pay these families more tributes so they can pursue their American dream and avoid a life of poverty that is filled with violence, mischief, and this vicious cycle.

A lot of fathers (in fact, still the majority of all fathers, thank goodness) live in the same system, and choose to work and lawfully provide for their families (or choose to not become fathers to start with, if they can't handle fatherhood) - as opposed to doing criminal things that will land them in jail, and away from their kids (where being away from kids is the consequence of THEIR OWN chosen actions). It has nothing to do with the "system". The subway system uses electrified rails, but it is not the fault of that system if someone CHOOSES to jump on the rails.


Incidentally, had this kid's criminal father been at home rather than in jail, do you really think that would have prevented the kid from following in the father's criminal footsteps? How much difference does it make to the kid whether the role model of crime is out in the streets committing crime, or in jail due to committing crime? These people are given free housing, free food, free healthcare, free schools, free welfare allowance for cool sneakers - a person can certainly start from that, and get out of poverty. But crime IS their American dream, they don't want any other even though it is freely offered to them.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:21 AM
 
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A lot of fathers (in fact, still the majority of all fathers, thank goodness) live in the same system, and choose to work and lawfully provide for their families (or choose to not become fathers to start with, if they can't handle fatherhood) - as opposed to doing criminal things that will land them in jail, and away from their kids (where being away from kids is the consequence of THEIR OWN chosen actions). It has nothing to do with the "system". The subway system uses electrified rails, but it is not the fault of that system if someone CHOOSES to jump on the rails.


Incidentally, had this kid's criminal father been at home rather than in jail, do you really think that would have prevented the kid from following in the father's criminal footsteps? How much difference does it make to the kid whether the role model of crime is out in the streets committing crime, or in jail due to committing crime? These people are given free housing, free food, free healthcare, free schools, free welfare allowance for cool sneakers - a person can certainly start from that, and get out of poverty. But crime IS their American dream, they don't want any other even though it is freely offered to them.
So the kid's father was in jail, where was the grandfather? Welfare hasn't been in this country forever, you really think a whole mentality was birthed out of governmental policy? What were all the teat-suckers doing for milk before welfare and NYCHA existed?
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:55 AM
 
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So the kid's father was in jail, where was the grandfather? Welfare hasn't been in this country forever, you really think a whole mentality was birthed out of governmental policy? What were all the teat-suckers doing for milk before welfare and NYCHA existed?

Right, sure, slavery (that ended long before this kid, his father, and his grandfather were born) is responsible for these people's behavior! Slavery will excuse every crime committed by a non-white person in the next 3,000 years, and actually forever! Because effects of slavery never end - they are permanent, even on descendants of slaves who never remotely experienced any slavery, who live in free housing, get free food, have free healthcare, and go to schools where exasperated teachers try to give them some basic free education and point them in the direction of civility and employability!


Okay, so I come from a broad ethnic group called Slavs, and the English word "slave" derives from Slav (and the same Roman Latin word "servus" is related to "Serbus", the specific ethnicity of one of my parents) - because my ancestors were the preferred slave population in Europe about 2,000 years ago (and several centuries later, until slavery disappeared in Europe. Actually, I think the designation of Slavs was not even coined until around around 700 AD, to cover all kinds of Eastern European tribes that were used for slavery) ... and remained as lower-class subjects of foreign powers (ie, Austria or Turkey) until 1918. How long should I be harping about that, or using my "slave ancestry" to defend my own, personally FREELY CHOSEN behavior?

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Old 02-21-2020, 11:18 AM
 
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Right, sure, slavery (that ended long before this kid, his father, and his grandfather were born) is responsible for these people's behavior! Slavery will excuse every crime committed by a non-white person in the next 3,000 years, and actually forever! Because effects of slavery never end - they are permanent, even on descendants of slaves who never remotely experienced any slavery, who live in free housing, get free food, have free healthcare, and go to schools where exasperated teachers try to give them some basic free education and point them in the direction of civility and employability!


Okay, so I come from a broad ethnic group called Slavs, and the English word "slave" derives from Slav (and the same Roman Latin word "servus" is related to "Serbus", the specific ethnicity of one of my parents) - because my ancestors were the preferred slave population in Europe about 2,000 years ago (and several centuries later, until slavery disappeared in Europe. Actually, I think the designation of Slavs was not even coined until around around 700 AD, to cover all kinds of Eastern European tribes that were used for slavery) ... and remained as lower-class subjects of foreign powers (ie, Austria or Turkey) until 1918. How long should I be harping about that, or using my "slave ancestry" to defend my own, personally FREELY CHOSEN behavior?
Slavery is your guess? Ok.
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Old 02-21-2020, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I just read in the paper what these boys did to her.






they should be put in a helicopter and easily dropped into the ocean and covered in blood I hear sharks are hungry.


I hope and pray these 3 disgusting human beings rot in hell for the rest of eternity.
they are disgusting and shame on thier parents and or guardians, some example they set.


this whole thing is simply sickening
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Old 02-21-2020, 11:25 AM
 
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I just read in the paper what these boys did to her.






they should be put in a helicopter and easily dropped into the ocean and covered in blood I hear sharks are hungry.


I hope and pray these 3 disgusting human beings rot in hell for the rest of eternity.
they are disgusting and shame on thier parents and or guardians, some example they set.


this whole thing is simply sickening
I'm a parent too and these kids need to be dealt with when they are found guilty, and I say when, because so far the evidence gathered is pointing to them

But I'm not wishing harm to a kid. I can't tell you how to feel, however.
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Old 02-21-2020, 11:40 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What's there to defend? I'm all for the "proven in a court of law" business, but it's not looking good for these kids. Even the uncle of the one that got most recently arrested, check out his comments on the situation, there were 2 stories about him in the Post over the last 2 days.
The children are a result of racism in terms of no proper after-school programs, the division of the haves and have nots can be clearly seen between the west and east side of Morning-side Park....If these kids had access to better teachers,,,These kids were just born on the wrong side of Morning side Park if they were born on the west side they would be attending Stuyvesant H.S.......

Donate to the NAN,,,Hooooooo!!!!!!

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Old 02-21-2020, 12:26 PM
 
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The children are a result of racism in terms of no proper after-school programs, the division of the haves and have nots can be clearly seen between the west and east side of Morning-side Park....If these kids had access to better teachers,,,These kids were just born on the wrong side of Morning side Park if they were born on the west side they would be attending Stuyvesant H.S.......

Donate to the NAN,,,Hooooooo!!!!!!
Umm yeah

It's like you almost want him to make a statement (who cares if he does or does not)

Whatever entertains you
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