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Old 12-19-2019, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Officers on horses and on foot patrolled Morningside Park a week after 18-year-old Tessa Majors allegedly was stabbed to death by young teenagers. Also in the park a week later is an anti-violence group called Street Corner Resources.

Iesha Sekou is the founder of the Harlem group. She says teens don't fully understand their actions.

"Consequential thinking, the ability to think about the consequences, they don't have that,” Sekou said. “You don't have that by the time you are 14, 15, 16."

Police say the attack on Majors, who was a freshman at Barnard College, began with a robbery by three boys, 13 and 14 years old.

The NYPD admits robberies by teens have surged.

Arrests for 17-year-olds are up 10 percent, and arrests for teens 15 and under are up 25 percent, compared to last year.

Sekou thinks parents, elected officials and society must take some of the blame for misguided teens.

"I think if we are seeing a spike, then we are seeing our failure," Sekou said.

Police Commissioner Dermot Shea says the NYPD is searching for new ways to address the problem.

"We are going to be rolling out a youth strategy here and we are looking to attack this, Dean, from both sides,” said Shea. “Can we stop the robberies, can we protect victims, but can we also stop kids from engaging in this behavior? Can we pivot them off to a different way? Can we keep them out of the justice system?"

The commissioner admits youth robberies are not new, but clearly they've been increasing recently, especially in Manhattan and the Bronx.
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Old 12-19-2019, 07:17 PM
 
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Officers on horses and on foot patrolled Morningside Park a week after 18-year-old Tessa Majors allegedly was stabbed to death by young teenagers. Also in the park a week later is an anti-violence group called Street Corner Resources.

Iesha Sekou is the founder of the Harlem group. She says teens don't fully understand their actions.

"Consequential thinking, the ability to think about the consequences, they don't have that,” Sekou said. “You don't have that by the time you are 14, 15, 16."

Police say the attack on Majors, who was a freshman at Barnard College, began with a robbery by three boys, 13 and 14 years old.

The NYPD admits robberies by teens have surged.

Arrests for 17-year-olds are up 10 percent, and arrests for teens 15 and under are up 25 percent, compared to last year.

Sekou thinks parents, elected officials and society must take some of the blame for misguided teens.

"I think if we are seeing a spike, then we are seeing our failure," Sekou said.

Police Commissioner Dermot Shea says the NYPD is searching for new ways to address the problem.

"We are going to be rolling out a youth strategy here and we are looking to attack this, Dean, from both sides,” said Shea. “Can we stop the robberies, can we protect victims, but can we also stop kids from engaging in this behavior? Can we pivot them off to a different way? Can we keep them out of the justice system?"

The commissioner admits youth robberies are not new, but clearly they've been increasing recently, especially in Manhattan and the Bronx.



More absurd excuses. This is nonsensical beyond words. A 14 year old fully understands consequences of stabbing unless he is severely intellectually subnormal... a toddler understands that it hurts to be stabbed, and a 7 year old understands death. Stabbing a random person in the park is not "misguided" - with the exception of a severe mental health issue, there is nothing that can possibly "guide" you to that action except a violent criminal intent.



There is no rhyme or reason to this woman's ridiculous statements, except the goal to protect criminals - not that they particularly need it, since they are already far better protected from punishment than the general public is protected from crime.
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Old 12-19-2019, 07:30 PM
 
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You see, when adult back up for people under 18, this simply providing them with another excuse to do whatever they want without worrying about consequences. There is no need to publicize this information out to the world.
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Westchester County
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IMO, the root of the problem with these troubled youth is their parents and their home. Very few programs will be able to support any youth who come from a home where this behavior is accepted and encouraged, unless the parents are invested. Most of the times, these parents are not invested.
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Old 12-19-2019, 09:55 PM
 
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You see, when adult back up for people under 18, this simply providing them with another excuse to do whatever they want without worrying about consequences. There is no need to publicize this information out to the world.

This person is not proposing anything new. There are programs everywhere preaching to the ghetto youth, and the criminal ghetto youth consider the message of these programs to be uncool, unimportant and silly. These programs are having no impact, just a waste of time and money. As though the criminal ghetto youth have never heard from anyone that they need to stay in school and stay away from crime because they'll end up in jail. As if they care at all. They see jail as a social club.


People who are dangerous, whether they are adult or juvenile, should be locked up for as long as they are dangerous, which for many of them means forever. Those who don't want to be locked up will not commit crimes, those who commit crimes should be locked up. What else?


All these lifestyle improvement initiatives are like what was done recently in Oakland, CA with giving ghetto people free scooters to get around in bicycle lanes. Ghetto people were offended, and declined the scooters as an uncool method of transportation. Ghetto people function on the principle that they only want a Mercedes, and if they can't have that, then they are obviously entitled to jump subway turnstiles.
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Old 12-19-2019, 10:07 PM
 
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This person is not proposing anything new. There are programs everywhere preaching to the ghetto youth, and the criminal ghetto youth consider the message of these programs to be uncool, unimportant and silly. These programs are having no impact, just a waste of time and money. As though the criminal ghetto youth have never heard from anyone that they need to stay in school and stay away from crime because they'll end up in jail. As if they care at all. They see jail as a social club.


People who are dangerous, whether they are adult or juvenile, should be locked up for as long as they are dangerous, which for many of them means forever. Those who don't want to be locked up will not commit crimes, those who commit crimes should be locked up. What else?


All these lifestyle improvement initiatives are like what was done recently in Oakland, CA with giving ghetto people free scooters to get around in bicycle lanes. Ghetto people were offended, and declined the scooters as an uncool method of transportation. Ghetto people function on the principle that they only want a Mercedes, and if they can't have that, then they are obviously entitled to jump subway turnstiles.
The programs affect a few people. You'll find those convicted who used to programs to get degrees, even graduate degrees.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...ourney-n763011

and
Daily News features Justice In Education Scholar Leyla Martinez - The Center for Justice at Columbia University

Obvious is not everyone, as there are still issues of poverty and crime but some young people, even those with records DO benefit from those programs enormously.

People from poor neighborhoods do get educations. Not everyone obviously, but people do move up socioeconomically.

I was born in Jackson Heights, Queens. I attended and graduated from two Ivy Leagues (as a kid we moved to Alabama) pricely because I did not want to be stuck in some ghetto in the Bronx.

I mean your education didn't get you into a safe place. Thank god mine did.
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Old 12-19-2019, 10:08 PM
 
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What got me was the 16 year old kid who got arrested 22 times. 22 times??
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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This person is not proposing anything new. There are programs everywhere preaching to the ghetto youth, and the criminal ghetto youth consider the message of these programs to be uncool, unimportant and silly. These programs are having no impact, just a waste of time and money. As though the criminal ghetto youth have never heard from anyone that they need to stay in school and stay away from crime because they'll end up in jail. As if they care at all. They see jail as a social club.


People who are dangerous, whether they are adult or juvenile, should be locked up for as long as they are dangerous, which for many of them means forever. Those who don't want to be locked up will not commit crimes, those who commit crimes should be locked up. What else?


All these lifestyle improvement initiatives are like what was done recently in Oakland, CA with giving ghetto people free scooters to get around in bicycle lanes. Ghetto people were offended, and declined the scooters as an uncool method of transportation. Ghetto people function on the principle that they only want a Mercedes, and if they can't have that, then they are obviously entitled to jump subway turnstiles.
Very blunt, unPC, but very on the mark. I couldn't agree more.

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What got me was the 16 year old kid who got arrested 22 times. 22 times??
If not for confidentiality laws--you'd be surprised at what's out there. Sometimes, I think criminals are afforded the privacy of not having their backgrounds exposed in order to protect the politicians that enables them more than it is to protect the actual criminals from scrutiny. It's completely absurd.

I couldn't begin to tell you the number of people walking around with 30, 50 and in some cases 70 arrests of multiple double digit felonies all within a 10-20 year period. I've even come across people with over 30 arrests before they've reached adulthood. It's absolutely insane.

Case in point--there was the cop that was killed.a few years back in Queens named Brian Moore who was shot by thug in cold blood while in sitting in an unmarked car. Little attention was brought to the fact that the guy had about 50-60 arrests, many of the charges were probably downgraded to justify his release.
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Gods country
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What got me was the 16 year old kid who got arrested 22 times. 22 times??
That’s someone who should be incarcerated till he’s in his 30s or 40s to protect civilized folk and give him a chance to contemplate what his actions have done to him.
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Old 12-20-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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How about we go back to the old initiative of stop and frisk? That and better access to abortions would illuminate that problem. If it were up to me I'd introduce forced abortions.
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