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If I could afford to live in BPC, I'd be there in a heartbeat. I could walk everywhere or take the subway for under 20 minutes for anything else. It would be a dream, even if grocery shopping would be a little taxing.
Are u kidding me, we have families
I would be there too
I dont care about walking to the train or being cold
I just need off street parking otherwise no deal
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Yup and I hate the fact that the food sucks in Parkchester. I really wish people would stop throwing that in my face. We said ideal. If I could afford to live ELSEWHERE, it would be in Manhattan. I thought that was the point of this thread.
The other point, the one I made is to suggest what is ideal for some, means ideal for all. My original point:
If restaurants, art, music and access to world class culture makes you happy, then living out in the burbs is going to be horrible. If you like driving everywhere, it also is going to be horrible. If you like 2nd and 3rd rate restaurants, if there is any to begin with, you won't have a problem.
I was in Lawton. All I can say is it was the ashcan of America. The food there, in every restaurant, was horrendous. What they call chinese or italian was only worthy of one thing, deposit into the toilet. It was awful.
My ideal would be able to walk everywhere. $100 K is not the norm for NYC. The median income is around $50K, not $100K. Ergo, above it, is more well to do.
How long ago were you in Lawton?
The food scene has improved nationwide over the last 20 years, including NYC. A lot of things that are widely available now were not back then.
Musicians do not just stop in major cities. You will always have access to music unless you live in the middle of nowhere.
As for driving, yeah that's largely true. However that's a matter of personal preference of course.
The food scene has improved nationwide over the last 20 years, including NYC. A lot of things that are widely available now were not back then.
Musicians do not just stop in major cities. You will always have access to music unless you live in the middle of nowhere.
As for driving, yeah that's largely true. However that's a matter of personal preference of course.
I think if she’s prizing walkability and not driving, then Lawton doesn’t work out so well when it comes to restaurants since they’d be scattered about at distances from residential areas that would often make not driving pretty onerous including getting to restaurants.
Parkchester might not have the greatest restaurant scene, though the Bengali options seem interesting, but there’s at least a number of places within walking distance anywhere within the neighborhood and the prospect of hopping on a fairly frequent bus or train to get to other parts of the city.
I think if she’s prizing walkability and not driving, then Lawton doesn’t work out so well when it comes to restaurants since they’d be scattered about at distances from residential areas that would often make not driving pretty onerous including getting to restaurants.
Parkchester might not have the greatest restaurant scene, though the Bengali options seem interesting, but there’s at least a number of places within walking distance anywhere within the neighborhood and the prospect of hopping on a fairly frequent bus or train to get to other parts of the city.
Well of course it's less walkable, I wasn't denying that. Though, most of the country is autocentric, and a large chunk of NYC was built for cars too.
I was just saying that I believed Lawton has more options than she was implying.
Well of course it's less walkable, I wasn't denying that. Though, most of the country is autocentric, and a large chunk of NYC was built for cars too.
I was just saying that I believed Lawton has more options than she was implying.
I get that—I’m saying that she may have been judging it through that lens which can greatly color how she experienced the city and the dining there.
Well of course it's less walkable, I wasn't denying that. Though, most of the country is autocentric, and a large chunk of NYC was built for cars too.
I was just saying that I believed Lawton has more options than she was implying.
The autoindustry lobbied to make the US autocentric. It wasn't always that way. This is why Europe is wayyyy cooler than the US. They have walkable cities.
The Metropolitan Opera is in NYC. So is Broadway. So is the Met and Moma. These are my benchmarks, not Beyonce or even Billy Joel.
Lawton was about 13 years ago. It was the worst place in the world.
What percentage of New Yorkers even care about opera or see Broadway plays on a regular basis? If you prefer to be around these things then that's fine of course, but the lack of them does not mean a place is bad.
13 years is a super long time. 2006 NYC was a much different place.
What percentage of New Yorkers even care about opera or see Broadway plays on a regular basis? If you prefer to be around these things then that's fine of course, but the lack of them does not mean a place is bad.
13 years is a super long time. 2006 NYC was a much different place.
Wasn't this discussion about OUR personal preferences. I'm not alone in wanting FIRST CLASS cultural experiences. A two-horse town, or even a seven-horse town would never cut it. And apparently, given the price of real estate in NYC, many, many people agree. That's why they buy apartments for a million dollars plus. Also, the mere existence of an ethnic restaurant doesn't mean it is a good quality one. There are numerous Chinese restaurants near me, and Thai. Their crap and not worthy of eating in. Lucky for me, I live in NYC and don't have to travel too far to get it. Where my aunt lives in NC, we had to travel nearly an hour and the selection was slim pickings. We ate in one of those restaurants that was in one of those TV reality shows, I think it was called Kitchen Impossible. Unfortunately, the kitchen remained impossible and inedible, even after its tv fame.
The autoindustry lobbied to make the US autocentric. It wasn't always that way. This is why Europe is wayyyy cooler than the US. They have walkable cities.
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Originally Posted by roseba
Wasn't this discussion about OUR personal preferences. I'm not alone in wanting FIRST CLASS cultural experiences. A two-horse town, or even a seven-horse town would never cut it. And apparently, given the price of real estate in NYC, many, many people agree. That's why they buy apartments for a million dollars plus. Also, the mere existence of an ethnic restaurant doesn't mean it is a good quality one. There are numerous Chinese restaurants near me, and Thai. Their crap and not worthy of eating in. Lucky for me, I live in NYC and don't have to travel too far to get it. Where my aunt lives in NC, we had to travel nearly an hour and the selection was slim pickings. We ate in one of those restaurants that was in one of those TV reality shows, I think it was called Kitchen Impossible. Unfortunately, the kitchen remained impossible and inedible, even after its tv fame.
Yes it is a matter of personal preference, but you're going out of your way to act like other parts of the US are void of good food.
I'm a foodie myself so I know that's just not true. Unless you're talking about fine dining, which most New Yorkers can't afford to or lack the interest to do regularly.
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