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Opinion:
Don't condone it.................Connecting neighborhoods of higher incomes to those of significantly lower is a recipe for disaster.
The MTA train line is notorious for spreading the cancer of criminality. If not for demand in real estate ( thousands pouring in )
watch the neighborhoods values plummet with the introduction of such lines.
The neighborhoods it connects are not high income. It connects Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx.
Is there any evidence that anyone would ride it enough to justify the cost?
There have been previous studies on ridership projections that were promising. Part of why this is appealing is because the tracks and right of ways are already there and that’s usually the most expensive part. Another thing is the Bronx stations would already be built due to Penn Station Access plans for New Haven Line trains.
It’s curious that the East New York stop in that map doesn’t indicate an A/C and J/M connection as well as LIRR. I feel like that has to be a mistake on the mapmakers part, because that would be a very crucial transfer stop.
It's a good idea. The Q44 which is somewhat frequent is always packed with people going to and fro between Queens and the Bronx. I have known people who live in Queens and work in Brooklyn. Something like this would be fantastic.
I do not however, have hopes to see this built while I am still living in NYC. If it happened quickly, it would be a great bonus to me and my resale value. It would make it so much easier for me to visit friends and family. But meh, its a long road between a feasible study and fruition.
FYI the link to the Bronx is an afterthought in this plan. This plan uses the ROW to get from Queens to Brooklyn and "possibly" to the Bronx one day decades in the future
FYI the link to the Bronx is an afterthought in this plan. This plan uses the ROW to get from Queens to Brooklyn and "possibly" to the Bronx one day decades in the future
If Penn Station Access plan does happen, which seems decently likely, and the Queens/Brooklyn part of the Triboro RX happens, then a Bronx extension would be very likely as the stations would already be built out. Hell’s Gate Bridge was built for and at one point had four tracks. It operates with three now, but I’m guessing in putting in the fourth track might be part of Penn Station Access though I’m not sure that’s even necessary since I don’t know if combined Amtrak and New Haven Line peak frequencies would actually top 26 trains per minute—I mean, it’s not like we’re Japan or something.
Last edited by OyCrumbler; 02-05-2020 at 06:11 AM..
If Penn Station Access plan does happen, which seems decently likely, and the Queens/Brooklyn part of the Triboro RX happens, then a Bronx extension would be very likely as the stations would already be built out. Hell’s Gate Bridge was built for and at one point had four tracks. It operates with three now, but I’m guessing in putting in the fourth track might be part of Penn Station Access though I’m not sure that’s even necessary since I don’t know if combined Amtrak and New Haven Line peak frequencies would actually top 26 trains per minute—I mean, it’s not like we’re Japan or something.
But then you have to negotiate right of way with Amtrak. That's already been a boondoggle of extortion.
But then you have to negotiate right of way with Amtrak. That's already been a boondoggle of extortion.
Right, which is what Metro North will need to do for Penn Station Access anyhow. I reckon it'll shake out fine. That bridge isn't operating at anywhere near its capacity, and Amtrak should be given a little something to maintain it. After all, the costs of creating a new right-of-way for MTA would be so much more expensive, so it's likely still a great deal.
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