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New York residents and businesses (not state nor local governments) send huge sums to Washington, D.C. because of one simple fact; high earners pay more in taxes than those who aren't. The high concentration of wealth in NY means people and businesses thanks to federal tax code pay more.
OTOH unlike many other states New York doesn't have many (if any?) large military bases, and or other federal spending sources. Yes there are federal courts and agencies, but it isn't as if federal spending is a huge part of NY's economy.
NY does get huge funding for Medicaid (highest in nation) and a few other social programs which helps mitigate some of damage. Federal government also kicks in huge amounts of transit dollars; who do you think forked over large sums for SAS and that rat hole (or rather money pit) called LIRR East Side Access?
You wouldn't know it by way some carry on, but NY does not have same high numbers of poor and destitute you see in other states which brings in federal money (welfare, etc...).
In many other states via various military or other federal government installations they are largest or one of employers. Again that just isn't true overall for NY.
Seems rather odd so many New Yorkers go on about how federal government "takes" more in taxes than it gives back to area. This when entire NYS and most local government budgets do exact GD same thing; take (via high taxes, fees, surcharges, etc...) from those that earn and give to those that don't.
Federal government "takes" NY tax dollars and spends on the busted and poor in flyover states. NY takes tax revenue from high earning inhabitants of state or local areas and gives to the equally poor and busted. Nothing to see here folks, move along.....
Meh, doesn’t matter what you wish, right? It’s what’s happening. Feds have a multitude of ways to spend their dollars within a state and the balance of payments does matter a great deal. It is money taken out, plain and simple and you’d be a GD idiot to not realize that. Does this mean there aren’t money pits in NYC? No, but even money pits is still money put into circulation in the area and NY’s not even making it to that part of the conversation. Spreading things around, helping out the needy is good and all, but the city and metro has infrastructure to fix up. ****ing around and not directing federal spending towards fixing up the infrastructure of one of this country’s primary golden geese is pretty spectacularly stupid.
police don't respect deblasio so they won't do anything
public transit is falling apart and no new infrastructure is being built
i blame deblasio and maybe DJT because he promised beautiful infrastructure.
Opinion:
During the 90' Mayor Giuliani drove crime down 48% unmatched to date
and then Realtor Donald Trump continued construction of high rise buildings.
This was an atmosphere of high employment and low crime.
Our current knuckleheads in charge are undoing all the hard work of 20 and some years ago.
Well, taxes of some kind are generally required for density and 24/7 to be sustained because you need some kind of shared infrastructure and resources to support that level of organization otherwise things can go to **** real quick. I think what you might mean is comparatively?
Its all well and good, except that NYC doesn't spend a lot of money on infrastructure as % of the budget. Any type of infrastructure spending (roads, buses, trains, boats, utilities, sewers, etc.) is way down the list.
I see that property taxes in NYC are about four times higher (per dollar of value of a home) than in Charlotte, which is a Democratic-run major financial center.
Charlotte has no city tax, and North Carolina state taxes are lower than NYC (both income taxes and sales taxes).
So let’s compare.
In Charlotte, you get:
Mediocre public schools
Mediocre public transit
Mediocre police protection
Mediocre yet relatively inexpensive higher education
In NYC, you get:
Terrible public schools (lower test scores than in Charlotte)
Good public transit
Good police protection
Terrible yet relatively inexpensive higher education
I don’t see that the much higher taxes in NYC give commensurate value. Can someone explain what a middle-class or upper-middle class taxpayer in NYC gets that you wouldn’t get in Charlotte? Better police protection and better mass transit don’t justify the difference.
I know absolutely nothing about Charlotte (I've just driven through on I-85 a few times) so I cannot answer this question.
Hopefully somebody has enough experience living in both places to chime in.
OP would actually be better off asking this in the Charlotte forum, as I'm confident there are former NYCers who post there.
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I know absolutely nothing about Charlotte (I've just driven through on I-85 a few times) so I cannot answer this question.
Hopefully somebody has enough experience living in both places to chime in.
OP would actually be better off asking this in the Charlotte forum, as I'm confident there are former NYCers who post there.
No, this is about NYC.
Charlotte was just one of numerous examples of large cities with much lower taxes than NYC.
What benefit do you get for the high taxes in NYC? I haven't seen any answers showing me exactly what benefit I would get as a NYC taxpayer from paying taxes that are significantly higher than elsewhere.
Charlotte was just one of numerous examples of large cities with much lower taxes than NYC.
What benefit do you get for the high taxes in NYC? I haven't seen any answers showing me exactly what benefit I would get as a NYC taxpayer from paying taxes that are significantly higher than elsewhere.
Well then I guess you answered you own question then. I figured it would be worth it for current Charlotte residents to tell you the difference in what they receive in exchange for their taxes, compared to what they were formerly receiving in NYC.
The only example I can think of is the NYC suburban public schools, a lot of people living in the counties surrouding NYC pay high property taxes, of which a significant portion goes to fund the schools, so generally districts outside of NYC are "considered" good because of this.
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Charlotte was just one of numerous examples of large cities with much lower taxes than NYC.
What benefit do you get for the high taxes in NYC? I haven't seen any answers showing me exactly what benefit I would get as a NYC taxpayer from paying taxes that are significantly higher than elsewhere.
I don't see the logic there, either. New Hampshire and Utah have median wages far higher than NY State's median wages. But NY State's taxes are much higher. So NY State's wages would be even lower in the absence of its higher taxes?
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