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Old 02-11-2020, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs...cb4hh-Q3VeXMh8

A Queens community board voted in favor of changes to the Flushing waterfront area after a fiery meeting Monday night.

Some protesters had to be escorted out by police as Community Board 7 discussed rezoning the Flushing Creek section.
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Old 02-12-2020, 12:43 AM
 
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Have lived my entire life nearby this area. The river has always been an eyesore, however the influx of more foreign born Chinese (not native Chinese Americans) into tall apt complexes will continue to put great strain on the surrounding suburban like areas of Whitestone/Bayside/College Pt. For example:

-Con Ed has been ripping up the streets and driveways of private homes for 2 years now installing new sewers and pipes as a direct result of the boom in population from Flushing. We're basically now suburbs of Flushing. Prop values have declined drastically (my house dropped $100K in value over last year as a result). And Con Ed doesn't plan on repaving or fixing up driveways anytime soon. Looking like a 10 year project. Parts of Bayside look like Baghdad.

-Just more and more stress on the few decent public schools left.

-Car insurance will continue to go through the roof since foreigners tend to get into a lot of accidents. My zip code has some of the highest ins. rates in the country. I pay more now in my 40s then I did as a teenager in the exact same area.

-Forget about public trans. Adding another 50K people in Flushing will bring it to a halt.

-While the rest of Queens remains fairly diverse in culture, Flushing and surrounding areas will continue to become more and more homogeneous specific to foreign born Chinese. Flushing, if not already, will become a full blown Chinese city - with very little Americana.
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:25 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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This is a good plan.

Densifying Downtown Flushing will actually ameliorate the strain on the trains and buses in the area because like a mini-Manhattan, DT Flushing is an employment center. If you allow for more residentials in the same vicinity as commercial, i.e. mix-use, then people can live and work right in the same area, lessening the need to commute.

The old and prevailing zoning in this backwards city is to generally keep residentials and commercial separate, which separates the workers from the workplace, which then requires the workers to all need to “go” to the workplace at the same time (“morning rush hour”) and return home at the same time (“evening rush hour”) and thus the crowded trains and buses (as well as cars) during such times.

The more forward thinking in planning is mix-use and like I said, will actually reduce the need to commute.

Most people do not understand that concept.

Sadly there’s always an ugly element of NIMBYism as exemplified by the post above (post # 2) that based on that poster’s history is born out of xenophobia and racism rather than concern about car insurance, diversity, schools, etc. LOL.
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Old 02-12-2020, 06:37 AM
 
Location: NY
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Have lived my entire life nearby this area. The river has always been an eyesore, however the influx of more foreign born Chinese (not native Chinese Americans) into tall apt complexes will continue to put great strain on the surrounding suburban like areas of Whitestone/Bayside/College Pt. For example:

-Con Ed has been ripping up the streets and driveways of private homes for 2 years now installing new sewers and pipes as a direct result of the boom in population from Flushing. We're basically now suburbs of Flushing. Prop values have declined drastically (my house dropped $100K in value over last year as a result). And Con Ed doesn't plan on repaving or fixing up driveways anytime soon. Looking like a 10 year project. Parts of Bayside look like Baghdad.

-Just more and more stress on the few decent public schools left.

-Car insurance will continue to go through the roof since foreigners tend to get into a lot of accidents. My zip code has some of the highest ins. rates in the country. I pay more now in my 40s then I did as a teenager in the exact same area.

-Forget about public trans. Adding another 50K people in Flushing will bring it to a halt.

-While the rest of Queens remains fairly diverse in culture, Flushing and surrounding areas will continue to become more and more homogeneous specific to foreign born Chinese. Flushing, if not already, will become a full blown Chinese city - with very little Americana.
Opinion:
People changing neighborhoods? That's a given.
Developers ruining neighborhoods? That's unforgiven.
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Old 02-12-2020, 06:47 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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People changing neighborhoods? That's a given.
Developers ruining neighborhoods? That's unforgiven.
How do developers ruin neighborhoods?
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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This is a good plan.

Densifying Downtown Flushing will actually ameliorate the strain on the trains and buses in the area because like a mini-Manhattan, DT Flushing is an employment center. If you allow for more residentials in the same vicinity as commercial, i.e. mix-use, then people can live and work right in the same area, lessening the need to commute.

The old and prevailing zoning in this backwards city is to generally keep residentials and commercial separate, which separates the workers from the workplace, which then requires the workers to all need to “go” to the workplace at the same time (“morning rush hour”) and return home at the same time (“evening rush hour”) and thus the crowded trains and buses (as well as cars) during such times.

The more forward thinking in planning is mix-use and like I said, will actually reduce the need to commute.

Most people do not understand that concept.

Sadly there’s always an ugly element of NIMBYism as exemplified by the post above (post # 2) that based on that poster’s history is born out of xenophobia and racism rather than concern about car insurance, diversity, schools, etc. LOL.
You need to spread reputation around before giving it to Antinimby
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Old 02-12-2020, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, NYC
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Originally Posted by QueensGuy72 View Post
Have lived my entire life nearby this area. The river has always been an eyesore, however the influx of more foreign born Chinese (not native Chinese Americans) into tall apt complexes will continue to put great strain on the surrounding suburban like areas of Whitestone/Bayside/College Pt. For example:

-Con Ed has been ripping up the streets and driveways of private homes for 2 years now installing new sewers and pipes as a direct result of the boom in population from Flushing. We're basically now suburbs of Flushing. Prop values have declined drastically (my house dropped $100K in value over last year as a result). And Con Ed doesn't plan on repaving or fixing up driveways anytime soon. Looking like a 10 year project. Parts of Bayside look like Baghdad.

-Just more and more stress on the few decent public schools left.

-Car insurance will continue to go through the roof since foreigners tend to get into a lot of accidents. My zip code has some of the highest ins. rates in the country. I pay more now in my 40s then I did as a teenager in the exact same area.

-Forget about public trans. Adding another 50K people in Flushing will bring it to a halt.

-While the rest of Queens remains fairly diverse in culture, Flushing and surrounding areas will continue to become more and more homogeneous specific to foreign born Chinese. Flushing, if not already, will become a full blown Chinese city - with very little Americana.
As long as Flushing doesn't get smog like a Chinese city, I think we're good. Main St is pretty damned dirty though.
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Old 02-12-2020, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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As long as Flushing doesn't get smog like a Chinese city, I think we're good. Main St is pretty damned dirty though.
I forget which poster said it here but where ever a place is heavily populated, it will be a challenge to keep it clean. I know city officials (Koo) have tried to clean up the streets. Don't know how successful he was but I think they're trying to address the problem. But I agree, Main Street is an absolute horror to walk through (especially around the subway entrances). I avoid the area any time I can. It's worse than Times Square.
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