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Old 03-07-2020, 04:57 AM
 
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Why is there this catering to the maybe 1% of black/ latino students who care about going to a different school? And st the expense of other students?

How about working for all the students in bad schools that want a decent education by making their experience better, where they are already?

Maybe I'm out of touch, but I haven't seen a big push from those communities to get in to specialized schools. What I have seen is the push for charters
Because African-Americans for reasons known only to themselves consistently vote democrat. And in this city/downstate that is an edge democrats need to remain in power.

Look at Albany; Fredo's big brother is the only white/Euro elected official in any position of power. House, senate and AG are all African American.

Cuomo in turn knows he needs 1199 and other healthcare/service/hotel worker unions (whose membership is largely AA and or Latino-Hispanic) to stay in office.

Meanwhile the whole "inclusion" and "equality" rethoric from BdeB, Corey Johnson, AOC and other democrats fits into AA narrative; to push themselves or other minorities into places just because, rather than on merit.

You want to make liberal, progressive democrats squirm? Ask them to square this new push for "inclusion" that seems to benefit blacks or Latino/Hispanics but skips over Asians. That they cannot or will not answer, as if Asians are some how not a minority.

A sensible and rational GOP (not Donald Trump) who can make a good case to Asian population could easily pick up their vote in good numbers. More and more Asians are waking up and realizing white liberal/progressive democrats don't have their backs.

 
Old 03-07-2020, 08:46 AM
 
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Actually they are the poorest demographic in New York City
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I find that very hard to believe, but there are a lot of poor/working class ones.
Believe it, page 12 of the city's own research:
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/opportun...ure_report.pdf
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/opportunit...y-measure.page
 
Old 03-07-2020, 09:27 AM
 
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Because African-Americans for reasons known only to themselves consistently vote democrat. And in this city/downstate that is an edge democrats need to remain in power.

Look at Albany; Fredo's big brother is the only white/Euro elected official in any position of power. House, senate and AG are all African American.

Cuomo in turn knows he needs 1199 and other healthcare/service/hotel worker unions (whose membership is largely AA and or Latino-Hispanic) to stay in office.

Meanwhile the whole "inclusion" and "equality" rethoric from BdeB, Corey Johnson, AOC and other democrats fits into AA narrative; to push themselves or other minorities into places just because, rather than on merit.

You want to make liberal, progressive democrats squirm? Ask them to square this new push for "inclusion" that seems to benefit blacks or Latino/Hispanics but skips over Asians. That they cannot or will not answer, as if Asians are some how not a minority.

A sensible and rational GOP (not Donald Trump) who can make a good case to Asian population could easily pick up their vote in good numbers. More and more Asians are waking up and realizing white liberal/progressive democrats don't have their backs.

DJT killed moderate, secular republicans. He's done so much damage to the party.





deblasio is racist and hates asians


incsoc!
 
Old 03-07-2020, 11:22 AM
 
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yep, they have great upward mobility though contrary to other minority groups.
 
Old 03-07-2020, 11:32 AM
 
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yep, they have great upward mobility though contrary to other minority groups.
And why is that?
 
Old 03-07-2020, 11:35 AM
 
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If they had a clue, it would be the black parents themselves protesting. Protesting that phony left wing "allies" are merely using them to overthrow the current system and have no intention of seeing them actually improve academically. Things will change when inner city parents figure out the trick and see their leaders as weak and realize that the path to academic improvement lies with fixing their own parenting and culture, not with any external government policy or school location.

There is no such thing as a high performing school from a facilities, location, teacher perspective. There are high performing student bodies, that perform well when in school due to the parenting quality and cultural values from which they come.

If you did a switch and took all of the high performing and Asian kids from the "good" schools and placed them into the "bad' ghetto schools with the same poor facilities, teachers, school funding, location..etc, and placed the kids from the ghetto schools into the good schools with the good teachers, location, money.....the good school would become bad and the bad school would become good.
I fear you may be right...
 
Old 03-07-2020, 11:38 AM
 
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I think it's very concerning for white/other liberals when a poor non-white group (Asians are the poorest demographic in NYC) like Asians are actually the MOST successful in school!

It destroys all the arguments about racism, "white privilege", etc.

And it leaves other non-whites with no excuse for lack of success.
 
Old 03-07-2020, 11:39 AM
 
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And why is that?
no sense of entitlement, they don't wait around for things to be handed out to them
 
Old 03-07-2020, 11:48 AM
 
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And why is that?
They place a high emphasis on education.

However the socioeconomic thing is more complicated than looking at one set of figures. Every Hispanic neighborhood in NYC is low income, while there are a lot of wealthy Asians (who are really shaking up real estate).

But even the kids of the genuinely poor Asian parents tend to do well. At least in East Asia, education is a very big deal (while that is definitely not the case in Latin America).

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Old 03-07-2020, 01:58 PM
 
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They place a high emphasis on education.

However the socioeconomic thing is more complicated than looking at one set of figures. Every Hispanic neighborhood in NYC is low income, while there are a lot of wealthy Asians (who are really shaking up real estate).

But even the kids of the genuinely poor Asian parents tend to do well. At least in East Asia, education is a very big deal (while that is definitely not the case in Latin America).
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