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Old 04-14-2020, 04:54 PM
 
Location: New York City
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NYC added 3700 unconfirmed covid that died recently.So looks like the undercount was roughly 50% in NYC

Not holding my breath to see China admit their 1000% undercount

 
Old 04-14-2020, 05:21 PM
 
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A New York pharmacist is under federal investigation for allegedly price-gouging N95 masks during the Caronavirus pandemic, according to a federal search warrant.
Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) agents and New York Police Department detectives recently seized 6,500 N95 masks from Richard Schirripa's Madison Avenue and Long Island residences.
Schirripa had been selling N95 respirator masks, an in-demand piece of personal protective equipment, at a markup, according to court records.




https://www.yahoo.com/gma/york-pharm...opstories.html
 
Old 04-14-2020, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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NYC added 3700 unconfirmed covid that died recently.So looks like the undercount was roughly 50% in NYC

Not holding my breath to see China admit their 1000% undercount
This.
 
Old 04-14-2020, 08:16 PM
 
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Share of positive covid19 tests is dropping, with very clear downward trends in all five boroughs.



Has New York Bent The Curve?
 
Old 04-14-2020, 08:21 PM
 
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I keep hearing how hard it is too get tested in New York City and in Buffalo, first hand stories about how hard it is to get a test. It seems like to get tested you have have severe symptoms breathing difficultly and go to the hospital.
Some people stay home and some die at home, this hideous thing
 
Old 04-14-2020, 08:39 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Share of positive covid19 tests is dropping, with very clear downward trends in all five boroughs.



Has New York Bent The Curve?
That’s pretty good, especially as there aren’t any reports of people breaking social distancing en masse for Passover and Easter.

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Old 04-14-2020, 09:12 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Share of positive covid19 tests is dropping, with very clear downward trends in all five boroughs.



Has New York Bent The Curve?
Everything normal except Staten Island, they did something wrong along the way
 
Old 04-14-2020, 09:39 PM
 
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While we're getting out of local territory here, I think I know what the Chinese government is trying to do.

They've seen the chaos and disruption the virus is wreaking here and in Europe, and want to get their economy fully spun up to take advantage of the opportunities to use their production to exert economic control over the rest of the world (that is not being productive.) If this means breaking their anti-virus policies, and potentially taking a lot of casualties as a result, they don't care. They have 1.4 BILLION people, If a million or ten die, it's acceptable losses, as long as the rest of the world doesn't (credibly) find out about it. This ties back to what I said above about them putting on a front about controlling the virus, and being able to control any news getting out about it, as opposed to actually controlling the pandemic.

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Yea, I agree with your point that they are controlling the information about the numbers, but at the same time that doesn’t contradict what leoliu or whomever that was that it’s quite possible China in recent weeks has had it more or less under control. I think it’s likely they lied significantly about the initial numbers and aren’t going to correct those, and those lies can come in a lot of ways like intentionally miscounting or misclassifying, but I think it’s possible they have not been significantly lying about the death counts over recent weeks. You had multiple things you said in your post, and so I agree with bits and disagree with others.

I think a more salient point as it applies to here is that there are other countries, democratic countries, that have free presses that aren’t sycophantic to leadership and can be openly critical and that there is transparency in its actions. There is no need to envy the CCP whatsoever. As a democratic and free country, or any country, can use the lockdowns to get control over community spread with unknown vectors, and then after the oxygen’s been deprived from that community spread, rational policies on loosening restrictions and having readily available testing to track future flareups can lead to a pragmatic reopening of more sectors of the economy. That’s policy not exclusive to the CCP at all.
 
Old 04-14-2020, 09:42 PM
 
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I would like to put this out as a poll, but having to cram anything even vaguely related to Covid-19 into one overloaded thread, I stuff this in here.

If you live in NYC, or were planning to move to NYC before the pandemic hit, has it caused you want to permanently move out, or change your mind about moving in?
 
Old 04-14-2020, 10:00 PM
 
Location: New York City
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While we're getting out of local territory here, I think I know what the Chinese government is trying to do.
Seems to me they were playing a dangerous sloppy game of messing with wild viruses, it got out, they tried to cover it up and when that didn't work they blamed wet markets and shut down the country until they could lie about having stopped the threat and quietly buried 100,000 bodies
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