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There are countries with functioning democracies with a free press and an economy working under free market principles that are essentially back open for business or never closed to the extent the US is and that's without a vaccine.
I advocate for doing this but for the US I cannot recommend because of large obesity rate, diabetes, heart disease, etc. It will be suicide if we adopt herd immunity and allow the virus to spread even greater.
The best thing the FDA should work on is having an OTC or prescription take home remedy. Like chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine which can help prevent ARDS if used on the early stage of infection before your lung suffers.
But due to the incompetency of the FDA + CDC, they are allowing more people die than letting people have the drugs easier. In Asia or Latin America, you can easily fetch hydroxychloroquine for $6 a pack. People in South East Asia have homes well stocked of hydroxychloroquine due to malaria being prevalent.
You bet the FDA and CDC is owned by the big pharma drug cartels because they will only recommend a vaccine for COVID19. They won't endorse any solution that is too cheap and too effective. All drug companies want subscription based drugs and vaccines they do not want a $6/fix. We will need annual COVID19 booster shots as the drug companies designate the effectiveness.
This is why I don't get annual flushots, it's worthless. You need to boost your immune system so you can survive such times.
I advocate for doing this but for the US I cannot recommend because of large obesity rate, diabetes, heart disease, etc. It will be suicide if we adopt herd immunity and allow the virus to spread even greater.
The best thing the FDA should work on is having an OTC or prescription take home remedy. Like chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine which can help prevent ARDS if used on the early stage of infection before your lung suffers.
But due to the incompetency of the FDA + CDC, they are allowing more people die than letting people have the drugs easier. In Asia or Latin America, you can easily fetch hydroxychloroquine for $6 a pack. People in South East Asia have homes well stocked of hydroxychloroquine due to malaria being prevalent.
You bet the FDA and CDC is owned by the big pharma drug cartels because they will only recommend a vaccine for COVID19. They won't endorse any solution that is too cheap and too effective. All drug companies want subscription based drugs and vaccines they do not want a $6/fix. We will need annual COVID19 booster shots as the drug companies designate the effectiveness.
This is why I don't get annual flushots, it's worthless. You need to boost your immune system so you can survive such times.
That's not what I'm talking about. I do not at all think that just opening everything back up immediately or to have not done a lockdown at all is a good idea though I think we might be reaching the point, provided we can guarantee ample and readily available testing and the trends we're seeing now continue, for much lighter restrictions in the near future.
I'm talking about countries that have dealt with it well by having a lot of testing early on, an actual pandemic preparedness plan and coordinating agency and were thus being able to track the spread and manage this pandemic better. We couldn't do it early on, because the early response was terribly bungled and the US was unprepared in general which meant community spread in a way that was near impossible to trace. On top of that, we had a lot of mixed messaging early on from higher up and a good cadre of idiotic parrots on the ground who've probably already birdbrained out memories of having done so. The lockdown is essentially trying to address that spread with a blunt force instrument and it should in a somewhat short time frame basically reset things so that flareups will be something that can be easily tracked provided there is ample readily available testing and that people continue with some of the general guidelines like trying to wear masks, covering up when sneezing, and constantly washing one's hands. The hope is that the lockdown gets us to that reset where there's not an ongoing massive community spread that's impossible to track.
I strongly disagree with your assessment of flu shots--I'm pretty sure what you're saying there is generally not strongly backed by reputable studies. Hydroxychloroquine is a different can of worms entirely which I've mentioned in other posts.
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"He also echo'd what I said yesterday that a Vaccine is still 12-18 months away but there
will be other treatments soon that will help tremendously for us to get back to a "new normal"
sooner until a vaccine is ready. Antibody testing, Plasma, Hydrochloroquine all mentioned
as possibilities by the governor."
Don't rush it. it can't be rushed. (THE: let's all get back to work- )......
we have a new norm now, (because of the monkey wrench thrown into the works)....
Yesterday - outside -- you would think nothing is going on (around town & around the world).
not a care in the world folk. People jogging in pairs & three’s, right next to each other & no masks.
Young millenials power walking and/or walking their dog – no mask, no social distancing.
Candy store owner/worker – no masks.
Others being ‘inconsiderate/thoughtless/defiant’ in the middle of a disease pandemic.
- Mother/father & baby in carriage walking along, no masks and the 2 yr old was holding & nibbling on a donut bigger than her hand…
...Is it that these people are truly in the dark about "what’s been going on?" Or, are they so
belligerent, COLD, and defiant that they TRULY ARE horrible people ?
It was pretty disturbing.
Wait until next year – March/April 2021 ....hope this deadly disease is more manageable by then.
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