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No he's taking it worse because he fired 31 shots and his attitude before and during the trail. I was reading yesterday how the other cops expressed some kind of remorse since they realized that this was a tragedy and these guys were innocent but Oliver has not shown any remorse, at least according to Sean Bell's parents.
My condolescenses to the Bell Family. However, remorse like grief. is expressed by people in different ways, and as such, will be interpreted by every person differently, ask any counselor that has worked in an Emergeny Room crisis situation.
Well, what are the details? What made this conviction appropriate, or are you just a typical person who thinks all black men are guilty until proven innocent?
That's an awful big leap. That case, too, has nothing to do with race. It's all about the law. There are facts in the case that cast doubt on Mr. White's behavior -- not his race. Race-mongers want to turn every event into a racial cause. Understand that racism is a two-way street.
Your leaving a nightclub with your friends and you get into your car. Five plainclothes ARMED men come at you pointing guns and shouting. Reports say that the officers didn't identify themselves at first, so with that in mind, all you know is you about to get carjacked or robbed. What is the best solution? Hit the gas and go. At that time Bell thought HIS life was in danger, so trying to run one of the armed men over was logical to him at that time.
If the officers would have identified themselves first and flashed some badges, all of this would have been avoided. And besides, they had no proof that these men had a gun. Firing 50 shots is more than excessive. Why couldn't they shoot the tires? It's all about shooting and asking questions later, and unfortunately a life was lost in the process. Justice wasn't served today and all it was, was a slap in the face to Bell's family.
It's all about profiling. The cops saw a group of black men leaving a club that they were staking out and ASSUMED that they were up to no good. These were just innocent men who were out for a night of partying. If a group of old ladies came out the club (black or white) and got into an argument, then jumped into their car. The cops wouldn't' have thought twice about approaching them or even wasting their time on them.
I hope these cops live with what they did for the rest of their lives. I hope Bell haunts them. Because of their assumptions, an innocent man lost of life.
You're just making this up as you go along. Your version of the story is one-sided and ignorant. There's a whole lot more to this case than you believe. You obviously haven't read or heard any of the testimony of either the detectives or the other witnesses. This is a tragedy for all involved. But the verdict was appropriate given the prosecution's case.
If John White truly believed his family was in danger then he had every right to do what he did. Only God and John White know what he was truly thinking when he pulled the trigger.
First of all he had an illegal gun. Second of all he as soon he walked out the door to confront those guys he escalated the problem. If he truly felt in danger, he should have stayed in the house, called 911 and if and when his house and family were under attack, he could have responded as necessary. This is the law and he broke it. It is tragic and I don't think he walked out the door thinking he'd shoot someone but he chose to take a gun into a circumstance where he only made things worse and he needs to pay for that.
You're just making this up as you go along. Your version of the story is one-sided and ignorant. There's a whole lot more to this case than you believe. You obviously haven't read or heard any of the testimony of either the detectives or the other witnesses. This is a tragedy for all involved. But the verdict was appropriate given the prosecution's case.
Do you care to point out what I missed?
How is this a tragedy for all involved when those three officers get to go back to their family, and the Bell family has one less family member!?
You say these officers feared that their lives where in danger how about Bell's life? I'm sure he felt his life was in danger when he saw a group of armed men come out of nowhere with guns drawn. But of-course we couldn't hear his testimony because he's dead.
Justice wasn't served and this just further highlights how imperfect our justice system is.
How is this a tragedy for all involved when those three officers get to go back to their family, and the Bell family has one less family member!?
You say these officers feared that their lives where in danger how about Bell's life? I'm sure he felt his life was in danger when he saw a group of armed men come out of nowhere with guns drawn. But of-course we couldn't hear his testimony because he's dead.
Justice wasn't served and this just further highlights how imperfect our justice system is.
Where to begin? How about this:
1. Cops testified they did identify themselves.
2. No "proof" needed that they had a gun. Cops believed it so.
3. No such thing as an "excessive" number of shots under the law. Use of deadly physical force is the use of deadly physical force -- without qualification.
4. Cops aren't trained to shoot out the tires. That's television -- and it doesn't work.
5. Cops profiled no one. Cops were black (2 of the 3 on trial) and patrons were black (not just the ones shot.)
6. They weren't staking out the bar -- they were involved in an active undercover investigation.
7. Cops didn't jump into this simply because there was an argument. There was credible evidence that statements were made about the presence of a gun.
And yes, it is a tragedy for all. This isn't over for those cops. Not by a long shot. They may in fact face federal prosecution or lose their jobs. They will be the subject of multiple civil suits. Their lives are ruined forever.
Bottom line is that these cops didn't intend to kill anyone that night when they went to work. They were caught up in a tragic event that no cop ever wants to face. Your version of events reads like a fairytale -- straight out of the liberal media accounts. The verdict was appropriate -- the prosecution failed to prove its case. This is all about the law -- not about anyone's feelings or beliefs.
my thing is oliver emptied his clip, reloaded and kept firing. i just think that instead of reloading, he could have reassesed the situation instead. secondly they should have got reckless endangerment. one of the bullets went through the air train terminal window. what if that bullet would have hit somebody? "well its just a cop doing their job" that would have been the attitude? another thing i dont understand is if there was suspicion the guys had a gun, why did the cop let them walk from the club to the car, get in, start it, and try to pull off? if it was that serious he could have stopped them before they got to the car, because what if they did have a gun in there? the cop was gonna do nothing and let them get the gun and come back?
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1. Cops testified they did identify themselves.
2. No "proof" needed that they had a gun. Cops believed it so.
3. No such thing as an "excessive" number of shots under the law. Use of deadly physical force is the use of deadly physical force -- without qualification.
4. Cops aren't trained to shoot out the tires. That's television -- and it doesn't work.
5. Cops profiled no one. Cops were black (2 of the 3 on trial) and patrons were black (not just the ones shot.)
6. They weren't staking out the bar -- they were involved in an active undercover investigation.
7. Cops didn't jump into this simply because there was an argument. There was credible evidence that statements were made about the presence of a gun.
And yes, it is a tragedy for all. This isn't over for those cops. Not by a long shot. They may in fact face federal prosecution or lose their jobs. They will be the subject of multiple civil suits. Their lives are ruined forever.
Bottom line is that these cops didn't intend to kill anyone that night when they went to work. They were caught up in a tragic event that no cop ever wants to face. Your version of events reads like a fairytale -- straight out of the liberal media accounts. The verdict was appropriate -- the prosecution failed to prove its case. This is all about the law -- not about anyone's feelings or beliefs.
8. Dont hang out at a bar until 4 am on the day you are getting married with friends who are ILLEGALY armed or worse, pretend to be.
^^^ So we're blaiming the victim here? That is like telling an Iraqi mother, who lost her kid in firefight: "You shouldn't be in a warzone!" I know this is apples to oranges, but lets not place blaim on Bell and his friends. This whole situation is nothing more than a tragedy. This city has a history of young, black males getting gunned down; never once have a gun was been found in these incidents. What I don't get is: How in the hell was these cops we're found guilty of reckless endangerment? I mean, 50 bullets fired on a street! There is no reason for that. 50 bullets. bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. x 5. How can these cops not be found guilty of that?
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