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You might want to double check the map. Flushing actually has lower than average cases (presumably due to high mask compliance among Chinese)
I think it depends which data you're looking at. In this graphic (NY Times) from a few days ago, Flushing is #3 for death rate from Covid. That surprised me because I also thought they didn't get hit hard.
and you were told about radiator heating in that thread.
Why keep making new threads about the same thing?
I think I explained in the OP that I had read of the reason NYC has such aggressive Covid19 numbers is due to a myriad of factors, one of which was specifically mentioned as building air circulation.
The pros and cons of heating systems now include a severe health risk. That was not on the radar previously.
I think it depends which data you're looking at. In this graphic (NY Times) from a few days ago, Flushing is #3 for death rate from Covid. That surprised me because I also thought they didn't get hit hard.
Like it or hate it the following is only my opinion:
The day that every New Yorker is worried about what might be floating around in the air
is the day that you will see me run to the hardware store and buy a length of rope..........................
Click on the death rate selection, not cases. Also, if you're reading this, you've seen Henna's post above this with the sorted list of worst death rates. Flushing is the third worst in the city.
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You might want to double check the map. Flushing actually has lower than average cases (presumably due to high mask compliance among Chinese)
Queens got hit hard. First, the high percentage of Chinese immigrants returning from China in December. Second, the Lunar New Year celebrations which spread the virus in their community in late January.
For the Bronx & Queens:
High number of small businesses or retail workers with constant exposure to the general public.
High number of MTA workers - bus drivers and train conductors with constant exposure to the general public.
Extended families (cousins, grandparents, etc) living together in smaller apartments. Without everyone having their own bedroom, stopping the indoor spread is difficult.
Manhattan with the largest number of white collar workers working from home had the lowest numbers. Followed by Brooklyn which has many upscale areas. These are places with nuclear families living in bigger apartments.
Another hit hard group was Department of Education. Anyone connected to children/schools has a higher death rate.
Lesson - work from home, don't take public transit, one bedroom per person, stay away from children and the general public. Don't ever leave your house again
Mr. Retired: I love your posts! We are ready to "buy a length of rope......." or go to the open Danbury Mall & hope we don't die from getting out.
Queens got hit hard. First, the high percentage of Chinese immigrants returning from China in December. Second, the Lunar New Year celebrations which spread the virus in their community in late January.
For the Bronx & Queens:
High number of small businesses or retail workers with constant exposure to the general public.
High number of MTA workers - bus drivers and train conductors with constant exposure to the general public.
Extended families (cousins, grandparents, etc) living together in smaller apartments. Without everyone having their own bedroom, stopping the indoor spread is difficult.
Manhattan with the largest number of white collar workers working from home had the lowest numbers. Followed by Brooklyn which has many upscale areas. These are places with nuclear families living in bigger apartments.
Another hit hard group was Department of Education. Anyone connected to children/schools has a higher death rate.
Lesson - work from home, don't take public transit, one bedroom per person, stay away from children and the general public. Don't ever leave your house again
Mr. Retired: I love your posts! We are ready to "buy a length of rope......." or go to the open Danbury Mall & hope we don't die from getting out.
Like it or hate it the following is only my opinion:
Queens got hit hard. First, the high percentage of Chinese immigrants returning from China in December. Second, the Lunar New Year celebrations which spread the virus in their community in late January.
For the Bronx & Queens:
High number of small businesses or retail workers with constant exposure to the general public.
High number of MTA workers - bus drivers and train conductors with constant exposure to the general public.
Extended families (cousins, grandparents, etc) living together in smaller apartments. Without everyone having their own bedroom, stopping the indoor spread is difficult.
Manhattan with the largest number of white collar workers working from home had the lowest numbers. Followed by Brooklyn which has many upscale areas. These are places with nuclear families living in bigger apartments.
Again, it depends which data points you're looking at. I believe OP was asking about the graphic I provided that showed highest death rates. But she said "map" so maybe it was the other link.
In any case, according to the graphic about death counts, Brooklyn neighborhoods actually account for 2 out of the top 5. Brooklyn - East New York was #1 for highest deaths per 100,000. B Sea Gate and Coney Island, Brooklyn was #5. So I don't think Brooklyn got off as easily as it sounds.
Perhaps other maps with infection rates show other things. But I personally can't trust anything that shows infection levels because most of the time this thing was raging, no one could get a test!! So there's absolutely no way those numbers are accurate or even in the ballpark of accurate. Deaths can also be undercounted, but not quite in the same way.
I think the biggest lessons about the maps are that the lower income places got hit worse than higher income. That makes sense - higher income areas have fewer people per household and are more likely to hold jobs where they are able to isolate from others (like working from home). Lower and middle income areas have more essential workers, either medical workers, transit, grocery store, delivery, etc. where they have to be out and about.
Also I should add that I believe a lot of people who could leave NYC did so during the worst of it. This is mostly people with a second home (well off), or college students, or young adults who went home to their parents' house. This could also mean that that's why Manhattan rates were low...because no one was there to get sick!
Now when they come back, we can start all over with them bringing back the illness from wherever they fled to, since now those out of the way places are starting to see an increase.
I don't think it's just the air circulation but the entrances, corridors, staircases, and corridors. I used to live on the 9th floor in a 23 floor building and people always leave a trail of variety of scents. A scent trail are air droplets in the air with either oils, mold, or bacteria and since viruses are tinier and can live on these things they are the vehicles of choice. My building didn't have any central air and the floors are concrete and the heating system is all steam pipe. Places where viruses could spread are new buildings that utilizes central air conditioning where the air is being recirculated or blown from the top and downwards. If you have these in your building, the best thing to do would be to seal them up and keep the windows open.
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