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Old 06-08-2020, 12:35 AM
 
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it isn't about black or white its about repercussions for the 1 to 5% of bad cops. 95% act professional, the rest ruin it. As the saying goes one rotten apple can slowly end up making the whole patch bad.
It is in part about black and white, hence "Black Lives Matter"
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Old 06-08-2020, 03:51 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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let's here cida opinion first on this.



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Old 06-08-2020, 07:36 AM
 
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They already take 2 hours
Then it will be “please standby by until an officer is available, and we don’t have an ETA, sorry about that”
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Old 06-08-2020, 07:51 AM
 
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I can see them putting priority on non white 911 calls. I'm only half joking.
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Old 06-08-2020, 08:10 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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With the police defunded, the cops will be able to work with gangs. Gangs will offer security services to their respected areas. each building will have to pay some sort of dues to their "gang" and wear their colors reflecting that they are under their protection.
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Old 06-08-2020, 05:43 PM
 
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I believe de-funding NYPD is a valid point. De-fund police NOT policing.



Right now NYPD responds to calls that they shouldn't be responding to. Jobs like non violent family disputes or non violent 'crazy' people. Instead of sending cops (that have very little training in those matters) send social worker with professional degree in above subjects.

NYC and US are the only country where there are cops in schools (or school safety agents), hire more deans and fund more after school programs.



In US police is used as a tool to fix all social problems (bad education, mental hygiene, last of family unit, homelessness and many more). Cops are trained but they aren't professionals in those matters. Its like trying to fix everything in your house with one tool. Tool used in wrong place will do more damage then good.


I 100% blame our politicians. Its easier to just arrest people than educated them, easier to put homeless people behind bars than finding a permanent place for them, easier to arrest people with mental problems than to give them help...Politicians did this!


I have many cop friends and they told me that re-delegating some % of NYPD budget will work well is some of the NYPD responsibilities will be re-delegated to more appropriate services.

We tried to over-police everything and everyone in this country so maybe trying something new might just work.
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Old 06-08-2020, 05:51 PM
 
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I believe de-funding NYPD is a valid point. De-fund police NOT policing.



Right now NYPD responds to calls that they shouldn't be responding to. Jobs like non violent family disputes or non violent 'crazy' people. Instead of sending cops (that have very little training in those matters) send social worker with professional degree in above subjects.

NYC and US are the only country where there are cops in schools (or school safety agents), hire more deans and fund more after school programs.



In US police is used as a tool to fix all social problems (bad education, mental hygiene, last of family unit, homelessness and many more). Cops are trained but they aren't professionals in those matters. Its like trying to fix everything in your house with one tool. Tool used in wrong place will do more damage then good.


I 100% blame our politicians. Its easier to just arrest people than educated them, easier to put homeless people behind bars than finding a permanent place for them, easier to arrest people with mental problems than to give them help...Politicians did this!


I have many cop friends and they told me that re-delegating some % of NYPD budget will work well is some of the NYPD responsibilities will be re-delegated to more appropriate services.

We tried to over-police everything and everyone in this country so maybe trying something new might just work.
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Old 06-08-2020, 06:13 PM
 
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Who's job is it to decide whether a situation is violent or nonviolent? Because if it's freshly graduated minimum wage 90lb Becky's job then I'm not so sure her twenty phd degrees in social work are cut out for that.
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Old 06-08-2020, 06:23 PM
 
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The ironic thing about this is that NYC would become more right wing in some ways if the police ceased to exist

Gun restrictions, smoking bans, alcohol restrictions, various employment related laws, etc. would be unenforceable
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Old 06-08-2020, 06:24 PM
 
Location: USA
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I think some people are confusing herd immunity with herd mentality. Just to be clear, the former is good, the latter is bad.
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