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Yeah but why is race the defining characteristic? I would like to know what difference it makes what color a murderer or rapist is.
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you need to have clear picture because if you don't take factors like race in research you miss stuff like.
Despite being only 13% of the U.S population blacks make up near 50% of homicide victims.
Despite being only 13% of the U.S population blacks make up 33% of the prison population.
What ever theory you believe systemtic racism or cultural factors. It's a problem.
Because you wouln't see there is a racial disparty. Again What ever theory you believe is the cause systemtic racism or cultural factors. It's a problem.
Why don't you also talk about gender differences relating to crime? They are striking.
When the sex of violent crime offenders is known, men are more than 700% more likely than women to be the perpetrators, despite representing approx 49% of the US population.
Violent and non violent crime correlates highly with poverty, which is a systemic problem. I wonder what the stats would be if you take poverty out of the picture (like what are the racial differences of offenders who aren't in poverty?). I bet your numbers would narrow significantly.
If you take poverty out of the picture and look at the above gender statistics in violent crime, I'd bet that the male/female ratio wouldn't budge. Why aren't you talking about that?
PS I didn't read the article referenced in this thread, but do you think the perpetrator was a man?
In every country on earth men commit more crimes than women. Thats why I don't talk about gender differences. This points to a biological reason for this disparity.
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you need to have clear picture because if you don't take factors like race in research you miss stuff like.
Despite being only 13% of the U.S population blacks make up near 50% of homicide victims.
Despite being only 13% of the U.S population blacks make up 33% of the prison population.
What ever theory you believe systemtic racism or cultural factors. It's a problem.
Because you wouln't see there is a racial disparty. Again What ever theory you believe is the cause systemtic racism or cultural factors. It's a problem.
Because the USA is a racist country and there is this inherent need for us to focus on race. Because without the concept of racism, then there would be no longer a way to keep people distracted and divided
Furthermore most crime stems from socioeconomic situations, no matter the race. If we solved the socioeconomic problem, then race data would be irrelevant.
You're implying that a human being will commit greater wrong towards society based on their melanin content.
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In every country on earth men commit more crimes than women. Thats why I don't talk about gender differences. This points to a biological reason for this disparity.
That's a cop out (no pun intended). Violent crime rates vary around the world and if the goal is to lower male violent crime, we need to lower violent crime overall not narrow the male/female ratio of crime.
Because the USA is a racist country and there is this inherent need for us to focus on race. Because without the concept of racism, then there would be no longer a way to keep people distracted and divided
Furthermore most crime stems from socioeconomic situations, no matter the race. If we solved the socioeconomic problem, then race data would be irrelevant.
You're implying that a human being will commit greater wrong towards society based on their melanin content.
I typed 'What ever theory you believe systemtic racism or cultural factors. It's a problem.' I take a neutral position.I mentioned two positons One where its either cultural (black/brown people fault) or systemic racism (white people fault) perhaps a combionation? Also you said USA is a racist country
You seem to be implying that a human being will commit greater racial wrongs towards society based on their melanin content.
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That's a cop out (no pun intended). Violent crime rates vary around the world and if the goal is to lower male violent crime, we need to lower violent crime overall not narrow the male/female ratio of crime.
That's a cop out (no pun intended). Even in the safest countries in the world men commit the majority of crimes. Like or not if you want to focus on lowering crime rates you have to focus your resources on who is commiting them. If you are in Norway for example, if low income white males are commiting most of the crimes you should tailor your crime prevention/enforcement to that group. No one has unlimited resources.
That's a cop out (no pun intended). Even in the safest countries in the world men commit the majority of crimes. Like or not if you want to focus on lowering crime rates you have to focus your resources on who is commiting them. If you are in Norway for example, if low income white males are commiting most of the crimes you should tailor your crime prevention/enforcement to that group. No one has unlimited resources.
Well, men around the world should learn from women on this one I guess. I don't have any idea how Norway "targets resources" so it's hard to comment. Can't imagine it means racially profiling though! I'm not an expert on Nordic culture, but I had a friend who was there for school and said she found men more "gentle". Actually I can't remember exactly the words she used, but you get the drift. More egalitarian, much lower poverty rate, bigger safety net, stricter gun laws I bet...
Well, men around the world should learn from women on this one I guess. I don't have any idea how Norway "targets resources" so it's hard to comment. Can't imagine it means racially profiling though! I'm not an expert on Nordic culture, but I had a friend who was there for school and said she found men more "gentle". Actually I can't remember exactly the words she used, but you get the drift. More egalitarian, much lower poverty rate, bigger safety net, stricter gun laws I bet...
Ya I agree! There is something about those Nordic countries. Even their prisons are more gentle. I do know during the vikring era Nordic women had more freedom than other societies like owning property. But ya when it comes to this men around the world should learn from women.
I typed 'What ever theory you believe systemtic racism or cultural factors. It's a problem.' I take a neutral position.I mentioned two positons One where its either cultural (black/brown people fault) or systemic racism (white people fault) perhaps a combionation? Also you said USA is a racist country
You seem to be implying that a human being will commit greater racial wrongs towards society based on their melanin content.
How could you take a neutral position, and then present two positions at the same time
We're going in circles because you will not speak your mind, so there's no reason to continue with you.
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