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How about telling the guy he is not allowed to drive and must take a cab home?
How about having him contact a friend to come get him?
Why such an urge to make an arrest when there are other options available?
So cops should just change the laws that were written as they go? Ignore all laws on the books and how they are supposed to enforce them?
You see in the days before body cameras, the cops probably would have had more leeway to do what you are suggesting. Send him on his way, he didn't hurt anyone.
But then "All cops are racists" happened and put cameras on all cops. Good.
Now cops have to enforce ALL LAWS by the book due to being on video.
Here is the outcome of that. Congrats. No more breaks for anyone.
P.S. Running from Police is still a crime that they HAVE to enforce. Don't like it? Get the laws changed.
Some people have no understanding of the justice system.
The police union should do what they did Baltimore after heavy anti-police sentiment. They literally could not care less to come to certain neighborhoods and simply clock in & out. The city is HOT MESS and dirty with little - to no economic activity.
Since the cops" are sooo bad and evil" then don't call them in an emergencyor when there is black on black crime.
Let them MISS you ! Thats all
This does not justify systemic racism & police brutality... but THIS IS NOT THAT... this guy tried to elude police and use a weapon against them ! Where does it stop ! They need to defend themselves too WTF
Yes, those dumb APD officers should have called a limo to take the drunken driver home safely to his 4 littles, and apologize to the business owner and customers for all inconveniences and revenue loss. That is the least the USSR cops would have done to police and help. Thanks for sharing all the excellent thoughts on how policing can be improved in the US...
Hopefully, such dreams will come true soon after defunding all police and replacing with well-trained professionals who know better how to handle the criminals...
No one said call a limo for the guy. They had options but why the need to escalate to make an arrest. The videos I see the car is parked so the man is no longer driving. They could have simply tell him to call someone to come get him and left it as that.
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Originally Posted by Werdywerd
So cops should just change the laws that were written as they go? Ignore all laws on the books and how they are supposed to enforce them?
You see in the days before body cameras, the cops probably would have had more leeway to do what you are suggesting. Send him on his way, he didn't hurt anyone.
But then "All cops are racists" happened and put cameras on all cops. Good.
Now cops have to enforce ALL LAWS by the book due to being on video.
Here is the outcome of that. Congrats. No more breaks for anyone.
P.S. Running from Police is still a crime that they HAVE to enforce. Don't like it? Get the laws changed.
Some people have no understanding of the justice system.
Yes before body cams they had more leeway to do good and bad but the bad outweighed the good. I remember when cops use to "arrest" people and "cut them loose" in an neighborhood where they knew that person would encounter problems.
I'm aware running from the cops is a crime, and I listed exactly where the guy messed up and don't support his actions in any way, from resisting, to assaulting an officer to fleeing. My main point was that they kept escalating to make an arrest and went from non lethal to lethal. If a taser in the hands of a cop is considered non lethal why when it enters the hand of a black man its sudden considered lethal and required deadly force?
If this man was sleeping in his car, then I don't see what the problem was in the first place. Even if he was drunk, he wasn't driving. Drunk sleeping isn't a crime. He should have been given the opportunity to call someone to pick him up, or he should have been placed in a taxi if the cops were unable to take him home themselves. I'm usually pro-police, but in this case there were clearly options that could have prevented this result.
Had the cop didn't fire, the story would be one cop down and one injured trying to subdue black drunk driver and the media would about the dead cop nor his family. Instead we are getting another stupid media sensationalized story of "Black father of 4 shot to death by cop" story.
After watching the video, a drunk unarmed man manages to fight off 2 male officers while on the ground. Get one of their tasers run what appears to be an entire cars length and fire the taser back at officers? What type of training did they get to allow that to happen?
Can someone clarify what I saw? The officer see him aim the taser back and in a split second switches his taser from right hand to left hand, pulls out his gun with the right hand and fire? How do someone go from non lethal to lethal that fast when dealing with a non lethal suspect? The guy was clearly in the wrong! He was a dumbass for resisting, fighting back, then fleeing was another mistake, but a simple DUI stop should have not cost him his life.
I don't understand, why chase him? If he run after failing the DUI check let him go, they already had his drivers license in their possession so they know who he was, put out a warrant on him, impound the car, and when someone comes to get the vehicle hit them in the pocket with the towing and impound fees, or better yet seize the car until the person driving turns themselves in and then take action such as suspend the drivers license, a fine, etc.
How about driving the guy home?
How about telling the guy he is not allowed to drive and must take a cab home?
How about having him contact a friend to come get him?
Why such an urge to make an arrest when there are other options available?
Here a father of 4 is now dead for a simple DUI violation and then people always want to ask why aren't black fathers around to raise their kids...SMH
On a side note ive never seen body cam footage released to the public so fast.
What a horrible point. 70 percent of black kids grow up with out a father. This isn't because one of them got shot by the cops after a DUI. Almost that entire 70 percent is made up of men who chose not to be in their children's lives.
They shouldn't have killed him but they should have let him run away either. If he's drunk enough to resist arrest, run away from 2 cops, steal their tasers he needs to be stopped so he doesn't hurt anyone else.
The way the city is going, take the lump sum before they default on the pensions.
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