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Old 06-29-2020, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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When I look at the spikes all across the country I see no way it doesn't circle back around to NY again.
And that's why they're now saying there might be a pause on Phase 3 that was scheduled to happen July 6th.
Cuomo will be giving a briefing today regarding that. I feel for the restaurant/bar owners. What a roller coaster they've been on except it's not fun.
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:27 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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And that's why they're now saying there might be a pause on Phase 3 that was scheduled to happen July 6th.
Cuomo will be giving a briefing today regarding that. I feel for the restaurant/bar owners. What a roller coaster they've been on except it's not fun.
What do you mean? He has already yanked gyms and bars. The city is scheduled to go ahead with Phase 3, just certain services are to remain closed.
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:31 AM
 
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What do you mean? He has already yanked gyms and bars. The city is scheduled to go ahead with Phase 3, just certain services are to remain closed.
Well this morning on NY1 he was questioned whether there will now be a pause on Phase 3 because of the situation that's arising in other states and he didn't answer that. He will address it at his briefing today. Phase 3 involved letting restaurants have indoor customers albeit at reduced capacity. That now may be in pause.

Update: Regarding indoor dining, final decision will be made Wednesday as they review data. They believe the virus particularly spreads indoors so they're looking into HEPA filters to see if that will alleviate the problem. Other establishments that are part of phase 3 (nail salons, massage parlors and spas) are on course to open this Monday but there will be enforced compliance (social distancing, mask wearing).

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Old 06-29-2020, 11:45 AM
 
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Well this morning on NY1 he was questioned whether there will now be a pause on Phase 3 because of the situation that's arising in other states and he didn't answer that. He will address it at his briefing today. Phase 3 involved letting restaurants have indoor customers albeit at reduced capacity. That now may be in pause.

Update: Regarding indoor dining, final decision will be made Wednesday as they review data. They believe the virus particularly spreads indoors so they're looking into HEPA filters to see if that will alleviate the problem. Other establishments that are part of phase 3 (nail salons, massage parlors and spas) are on course to open this Monday but there will be enforced compliance (social distancing, mask wearing).
Thank you! Does this include bars and gyms? (Meaning the HEPA filters solution). Do you know if those two will open?
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Old 06-29-2020, 11:47 AM
 
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Thank you! Does this include bars and gyms? (Meaning the HEPA filters solution). Do you know if those two will open?
I don't get it, bars are open in NYC with outdoor seating, why can't you go and sit outside? It's summertime, why do you want to be in an indoor bar anyway? I've walked out of bars in the summertime before because the AC was not to my liking.
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Old 06-29-2020, 12:11 PM
 
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Thank you! Does this include bars and gyms? (Meaning the HEPA filters solution). Do you know if those two will open?
https://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...l-15373864.php

Cuomo says malls won't open unless they install HEPA-filter systems
Governor does not mention gyms or give timetable for reopening "large malls"
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Old 06-29-2020, 12:22 PM
 
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No worries, just making it up as they go along.
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Old 06-29-2020, 12:26 PM
 
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The thing about his obsession with HEPA filters is that we've had large indoor spaces opened for months--supermarkets, Walmarts, etc. Why are they only worrying about this now? How is going to a mall different from going the the jam packed Costco?
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Old 06-29-2020, 12:27 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The thing about his obsession with HEPA filters is that we've had large indoor spaces opened for months--supermarkets, Walmarts, etc. Why are they only worrying about this now? How is going to a mall different from going the the jam packed Costco?
Exactly!
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Old 06-29-2020, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Well, according to the article I linked on a prior post.

"Mall operators have pushed back on any assertion that their indoor heating, ventilation and air-conditioning systems pose a danger.

While we can appreciate the state’s concern....any reporting that suggests that HVAC systems within enclosed shopping centers are more likely to distribute the virus than HVAC systems within ...freestanding retailers already open like Target, Walmart, Hobby Lobby, TJ Maxx (and others) is simply false," Jennifer Smith, a marketing director for Crossgates Mall in Guilderland, said in a statement last week.

The quality of overall air circulation in our shopping centers, which also benefit from considerable open and airy corridors, is as good or better than those venues that have been allowed to reopen.

Experts from Vanderbilt, Penn State and Johns Hopkins University have noted that the standards for HVAC systems in the United States are significantly higher than other countries. More tellingly, there have been no COVID-19 cases transmitted through HVAC systems."
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