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Old 11-25-2020, 10:22 PM
 
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And he knew what to do with it when he got it.
Yeah, profit off 9/11 and cater to developers
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Old 11-25-2020, 11:19 PM
 
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He did his job. No one was complaining about how he handled 9/11 and its aftermath as it was happening.

And given how many jobs construction generated in NYC, they should be catered to, no matter water the worthless local NYMBYs, Luddites, BANANAs, preservationists, and class warrior's think.

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Yeah, profit off 9/11 and cater to developers
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Old 11-26-2020, 12:22 AM
 
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He did his job. No one was complaining about how he handled 9/11 and its aftermath as it was happening.

And given how many jobs construction generated in NYC, they should be catered to, no matter water the worthless local NYMBYs, Luddites, BANANAs, preservationists, and class warrior's think.
What was there to handle? What was done was done in the blink of an eye, he just did control damage. What did he do about schools? Taxes? Infrastructure?
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Old 11-27-2020, 04:03 PM
 
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What was there to handle? What was done was done in the blink of an eye, he just did control damage. What did he do about schools? Taxes? Infrastructure?

Again, they're giving more "vague" responses.
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Old 11-27-2020, 04:07 PM
 
Location: southern california
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As much as people hate to hear it the Clinton crime bill was the catalyst in lowering crime in major cities. There was(and is) a huge recidivism problem, there are a lot of career criminals in cities, these people need to be locked up away from society. Rudy and Mike’s proactive crime stoping policies certainly helped as well and put NY ahead of its peers. We need to push back on any proposals to roll any of this back.

As a society we should be promoting dual parenting. The root cause of much of this is broken families, father absenteeism.
I will ever understand why when a liberal cracks the whip it gets approval no matter how conservative the action it passes

It would appear the messenger is of far greater importance than the message
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Old 11-27-2020, 07:34 PM
 
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Giuliani's big contribution was crime control. But buy doing that, he set NYC up for an economic boom that went clear to the 2008 global recession, by luring people into the city who previously considered NYC too dangerous.

As far as education, during the entirely of his term, the mayor's office had no control of education. That was controlled by the completely independent Board of Education. That wasn't eliminated, and the Mayor given control, until 2002.

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Old 11-27-2020, 07:45 PM
 
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I knew we were going back to the bad times when I see a stripped car on the service road next to the Major Deegan in the Bronx.
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Old 11-27-2020, 07:48 PM
 
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Giuliani's big contribution was crime control. But buy doing that, he set NYC up for an economic boom that went clear to the 2008 global recession, by luring people into the city who previously considered NYC too dangerous.

As far as education, during the entirely of his term, the mayor's office had no control of education. That was controlled by the completely independent Board of Education. That wasn't eliminated, and the Mayor given control, until 2002.
Well now we see how well that's turned out

And as far as the Mayor not having control over schools, that's basura
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Old 11-27-2020, 10:55 PM
 
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It's twenty years later. Until very recently, it worked spectacularly. It took an idiot Democratic machine hack mayor, and a global pandemic, to screw it up.

And to your education statement, it was. So much so that it was changed. But at the time, it was very much fact.

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Well now we see how well that's turned out

And as far as the Mayor not having control over schools, that's basura
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Old 11-27-2020, 11:56 PM
 
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It's twenty years later. Until very recently, it worked spectacularly. It took an idiot Democratic machine hack mayor, and a global pandemic, to screw it up.

And to your education statement, it was. So much so that it was changed. But at the time, it was very much fact.
Worked spectacularly? How? Did we need the transplants? Not really. All that really happened was a bunch of people got hoodwinked and bamboozled into signing contracts to pay for temporary housing in a bunch of 100-year old apartments.
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