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Yet another bury-your-head-in-the-sand post. So WHAT if crime is still low, relatively speaking? It's the trends that matter! If crime continues its upward spike, we'll be back in 1990 within a few short years.
If you truly care about NY, tell me, what good does ignoring the problem and acting like "oh it's no big deal, crime is still relatively low" do? Be a realist. Numbers don't lie.
and looking at that chart from period 90-2000 the greatest drop in crime was the result of the greatest fight on crime by the greatest mayor of New York City.
Mayor Rudy Giuliani... The stats never lie....only posters. For #$%^* sake.......Stop voting for the same political party.............
and looking at that chart from period 90-2000 the greatest drop in crime was the result of the greatest fight on crime by the greatest mayor of New York City.
Mayor Rudy Giuliani... The stats never lie....only posters. For #$%^* sake.......Stop voting for the same political party.............
Violent crime declined 20 percent on Dinkin's watch. But nobody knew it at the time because no figures later than 1991 were available during the 1993 mayoral race. You must not have realized when looking at this chart Dinkins is 1990-93
Nothing special happened to the crime rate when Giuliani took over. Violent crime was already declining strongly when he became mayor and continued declining after he left
It was Dinkins who was one of the primary architects of "broken windows" style policing. As the sociologist Alex Vitale notes, it was Dinkins, not Giuliani, who began chasing the "squeegee men" off the streets.
Above all, Dinkins did this by putting more officers on the streets. His Safe Streets, Safe City program, wrung from a reluctant state legislature, eventually let the city hire 6,000 additional officers, making possible a 54% hike in the number of policemen on daily patrol. Commissioner Bill Bratton would later note that Dinkins' heavy political lift had paved the way for his own early policing innovations.
Under Dinkins' watch, the astronomical crime rates of the late 1980s and early 1990s finally began to go down — major crime down 14% from the beginning of his mayoralty to the end, murders down 12%.
Why did Giuliani get so much credit? He talked more. And take a look at 1997-2000,
1997 when he was re-elected and you can see crime going up slightly there
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However since Trump is not going to assist New York
more city service jobs are due to be cut, there is simply no money to pay them. Trump's efforts to keep Covid-19 were not enough to keep the U.S. from having the most cases and deaths and economy in shambles (despite the daily bragging about hw many jobs have been restored) Had he been big on masks in the beginning and did a nation wide shut down much earlier and not the hodgepodge dealing with each governor we might not be headed for the economic flop we are now headed towards. And simply opening up things reckless are not the answer, Spain just had a big surge as well as France and Germany
Yet another bury-your-head-in-the-sand post. So WHAT if crime is still low, relatively speaking? It's the trends that matter! If crime continues its upward spike, we'll be back in 1990 within a few short years.
If you truly care about NY, tell me, what good does ignoring the problem and acting like "oh it's no big deal, crime is still relatively low" do? Be a realist. Numbers don't lie.
Cida is a big proponent of thugs' rights and lives, and could care less about you innocent law-abiding people......
Cida dances with joy when she hears thugs firing boom boom boom, but gets mad when thugs get handcuffed by the law enforcement......it is always the police to blame in her rigged world of value system...
I haven't met Cida in person but I feel like I know her accurately well from what she conveys through her posts consistently in the past ~50 years or so......
I've never understood the posters who like to post news items of uninteresting individual crimes. I do understand the posters who like to post scare stories to try to make digs at the mayor.
But here's this:
Trump Says Crime Is Rampant in N.Y.C. Here Are the Facts.
Crime is up in New York, but still remains low
The spike in killings and gun violence also comes after seven years of record-breaking calm when murders dipped to below 300 one year — 2017 — for the first time since the 1950s. That milestone was reached under Mayor Bill de Blasio, the Democrat whom both Mr. Lynch and Mr. Giuliani have blamed for the rise in crime. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/28/n...ban-crime.html
Do you really care about black and brown people Cida when it comes to crime? Or do you really care about them when it comes to police brutality. Which one?
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You must not have realized when looking at this chart Dinkins is 1990-93
Nothing special happened to the crime rate when Giuliani took over. Violent crime was already declining strongly when he became mayor and continued declining after he left
It was Dinkins who was one of the primary architects of "broken windows" style policing. As the sociologist Alex Vitale notes, it was Dinkins, not Giuliani, who began chasing the "squeegee men" off the streets.
Response: Opinion
David Dinkins is an honorable man with an impeccable record as a human being. Politician? Running New York as Mayor?
Questionable by many....
The broken windows policies ( under a different name ) were implemented many years prior to Dinkins administration as more police enforcement were added through tax payer money. As mayor he helped expand the police department by a third plugging the hole in a city where crime was out of control. The immediate implementation of policing in crime ridden low income areas was his focus. Don't know how that would pan out today. He probably would be called an Uncle Tom but he did stop the leak by plugging the hole. His hiring of Ray Kelley as police commissioner was a perfect marriage when Rudy Giuliani ( proponent of anti-crime ) was elected and both were coupled. A perfect marriage that drastically...DRASTICALLY reduced crime as the chart indicates that has not been matched to date.
In the following analogy:
A person who strikes the barn with a splash of red paint and then hands over the brush to another to finish painting the entire
barn does not deserve the same credit. That person is credited for coming up with the idea of painting the barn red while the
other person worked hard at beautifying and completing the work.
Would have Dinkins accomplished the same as Giuliani if he was reelected? I think so but the voters saw otherwise
( Remember the Crown Heights Riots ) and the task was left to Rudy Giuliani to complete and did so skillfully. The torch
was then passed to Michael Bloomberg who continued to carry the torch only to be dropped by the fumbling Bill deBlasio
who ironically has employed those who have served under Dinkins Admin....starting with Chirlane , his wife as a former
speechwriter for the NYS Comptroller.......who has received backlash for sending millions in tax payer funds...and the story
continues with purported misappropriation of monies and an ever increasing crime wave never seen since the 1990's..........
back to square one. ..............go figure...................
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It's only up compared to the SAFEST year in the last 50 years. Not in general.
It takes time for criminals to get back all the guns that were taken away from them over the past 25 years
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