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Old 10-27-2020, 02:37 PM
 
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Apple Watch? I'm going to buy an Apple Watch when OMNY starts to support Unlimited Metrocards just for that.
does the apple watch have nfc?
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Old 10-27-2020, 02:39 PM
 
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does the apple watch have nfc?
Yes
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:07 PM
 
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Apple Watch? I'm going to buy an Apple Watch when OMNY starts to support Unlimited Metrocards just for that.
If you already have an iphone as it makes it easier to go with the apple watch along with the carriers plan for it. If you have an Android stick with an android watch.
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Old 10-27-2020, 04:19 PM
 
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If you already have an iphone as it makes it easier to go with the apple watch along with the carriers plan for it. If you have an Android stick with an android watch.
No offense, but duhh
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Old 10-27-2020, 04:43 PM
 
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And people wonder why fares keep going up? The one thing they spend endlessly on is technology. I keep thinking of all the failed, abandoned technology wasted, like the systems on the bus that lit up to show all the passengers what fare was paid.
over the long haul, this should save money by not having to deal with costs associated with cards and vending machines, etc.
technology would not be implemented if it meant that the cost benefit would decrease.

think EZPass, automation kiosks, etc.
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Old 10-27-2020, 06:17 PM
 
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And people wonder why fares keep going up? The one thing they spend endlessly on is technology. I keep thinking of all the failed, abandoned technology wasted, like the systems on the bus that lit up to show all the passengers what fare was paid.
What technology? The Metrocard that has been around since what, the 90s?
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Old 10-27-2020, 06:47 PM
 
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No offense, but duhh
Not offended at all. Just putting it out there from my past experience with how many people I know had Samsung Galaxy phones and went to get a apple watch just because it was the latest hot thing to have. Then started wondering why it wasn't working with the android phone :lol:.

Some people just don't know. makes a good laugh when they try to set the watch up and realize it couldnt be done without an iphone. great laughs


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What technology? The Metrocard that has been around since what, the 90s?
I believe they were bring attention to the pointless ones. Such as the one on the bus behind the driver when a passenger paid the fare it would light up showing what type of fare they paid (full fare, senior discount, transfer, bus pass, etc)

It was pretty pointless as why do passengers need to see what fare others were paying.
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Old 10-27-2020, 07:59 PM
 
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I have been riding surface transit for many years and not seen any result from the fare-collection displays. However, they were often installed to keep people honest. If a 50-year-old uses a student Metrocard, it may alert an inspector three rows back and he could administer the penalty. In times long ago, it was used to keep the operator honest. Before that, as a conductor roamed the vehicle, he yanked the register cord to show the fare. Otherwise, he could keep the money.
Many transit systems across the country used wall-mounted registers against employee theft.
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On New York buses, I think it is intended to expose fraudulent low-rate Metrocards used by those who are ineligible. With Medicaid fares, the inspectors really cannot challenge a 30-year-old with an hidden ailment.
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Residents of the city of Venice get a huge break on the vaporetti fare, and tourists pay steeply.
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Drivers with NY E-Z passes likewise do not get discounts on the NJ turnpike, and Massachusetts drivers with their E-Z pass pay the steep cash prices on the Whitestone. By the way, years ago there were flashing signs above the toll lanes on the Whitestone to keep the toll collectors honest. A supervisor could see the discrepancy when a collector rang up a sedan as a truck went through.
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Old 10-27-2020, 08:33 PM
 
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I have been riding surface transit for many years and not seen any result from the fare-collection displays. However, they were often installed to keep people honest. If a 50-year-old uses a student Metrocard, it may alert an inspector three rows back and he could administer the penalty. In times long ago, it was used to keep the operator honest. Before that, as a conductor roamed the vehicle, he yanked the register cord to show the fare. Otherwise, he could keep the money.
Many transit systems across the country used wall-mounted registers against employee theft.
---
On New York buses, I think it is intended to expose fraudulent low-rate Metrocards used by those who are ineligible. With Medicaid fares, the inspectors really cannot challenge a 30-year-old with an hidden ailment.
---
Residents of the city of Venice get a huge break on the vaporetti fare, and tourists pay steeply.
---
Drivers with NY E-Z passes likewise do not get discounts on the NJ turnpike, and Massachusetts drivers with their E-Z pass pay the steep cash prices on the Whitestone. By the way, years ago there were flashing signs above the toll lanes on the Whitestone to keep the toll collectors honest. A supervisor could see the discrepancy when a collector rang up a sedan as a truck went through.
Exactly!

Back in the old days you'd see some grown a$$ college age adult flash a student bus/subway pass and try to zoom pass driver, and or get token booth attendant to open gate. Unless blind anyone could see unless this person got left back several times his/her behind wasn't in high school, nor had been in years.

To prevent driver or station attendants from having to get into it, system flashes fare amount and type paid. This alerts others (including LE or inspectors if present), who will deal with matters.
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:26 AM
 
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I could be wrong, but I think an inspector might ask to see the Metrocard and compare the photo with the user. If different, he might confiscate the card and give the rider a receipt for it. I doubt he would collect the right fare; maybe he would tell the thief to drop coins in the fare box. At any rate, the inspector would not want a confrontation with the kid's buddies on the bus. Someplace there may be MTA directives on how to handle fare beaters. A different situation is present on Select Bus Service, where there is no farebox on board and the Eagle Team inspectors do their job as a group.
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