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Good! Containment is the only option right now since enforcing laws against criminals is no bueno in NYC (or any city right now).
Keep them all together is as few spots as possible, away from good citizens and our families!
Properly the best case scenario. It's very concerning that these projects which are already free for all's for criminal activity would now become open armed safe havens that invite and encourage criminal activity.
Why not house the homeless there too while we are at it.
In all seriousness, that's what should have been happening. Build supportive housing on NYCHA property.
Edit to add: To be fair, people need to understand that once someone comes back from "upstate" they don't just disappear into thin air. If former felons can't find housing, their housing automatically becomes the streets of New York, which could even be by your house. A more holistic suggestion would be to have dedicated housing for former felons so that as they make the transition back into society they can smooth out the details before finding housing on their own. Truthfully, the transition out should start while they're still in prison....
Good! Containment is the only option right now since enforcing laws against criminals is no bueno in NYC (or any city right now).
Keep them all together is as few spots as possible, away from good citizens and our families!
The problem however is that there truly are GOOD people who live in these projects. I would even wager that the majority of residents are good people but the minority make up the visible majority if that makes sense.
For example, I lived in the hood and lived in the projects at one time. Most the people who lived there were actually productive people who didn't lead a life of being "project dwellers". However, the hoodlums of course did nothing but stay there all day and night, ruining the quality of life for others. Bringing other hoodlums from outside the projects with them.
Trust me, I am not disagreeing with you but on the other hand I do feel very bad for the honest working people in the projects and the hood, striving to leave, whom are being lumped in with the other trash. I sympathize since I was once in their shoes.
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The last time nycha had a preference for working families was the last time the projects were white.
DAMN. This is true, sucks to hear but its true.
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Why not house the homeless there too while we are at it.
Nah, let the rich whites in the UWS and UES and Brooklyn Heights deal with them. They always want to cape and advocate for the "disadvantaged", the down trodden, the homeless, etc. Well, now they have them right in their front yards, they can deal with them. I don't feel one iota of sympathy for them. They get what they ask for.
What a hypocritical society. If we are not going to give people a second chance, then what is the point of even sending them to prison? Just deport anybody who commits even a violation, and then close all the prisons and jails. Saves more money anyway. So sad, the mindset. But I understand it, this is what America is.
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In all seriousness, that's what should have been happening. Build supportive housing on NYCHA property.
Edit to add: To be fair, people need to understand that once someone comes back from "upstate" they don't just disappear into thin air. If former felons can't find housing, their housing automatically becomes the streets of New York, which could even be by your house. A more holistic suggestion would be to have dedicated housing for former felons so that as they make the transition back into society they can smooth out the details before finding housing on their own. Truthfully, the transition out should start while they're still in prison....
It sounds like you are describing halfway houses. I think that would be a great idea. Transitions are so important, especially amidst not just a pandemic but economic crisis. I would want these people to be set up for success. Research shows that the likelihood of recidivism declines significantly when economic opportunities like a job are made available.
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Originally Posted by SeventhFloor
What a hypocritical society. If we are not going to give people a second chance, then what is the point of even sending them to prison? Just deport anybody who commits even a violation, and then close all the prisons and jails. Saves more money anyway. So sad, the mindset. But I understand it, this is what America is.
I personally have to laugh at some of these posts like wtf do you think does your plumbing, builds your house, etc. Not trying to generalize but a sizable amount are people who have been previously incarcerated are in these industries. Yes, this is what America is. I agree. Total lack of empathy. I've been through some stuff too in life but every person is different and who are you to put everyone in a category and judge. And then to see how some are so so glad they will not be on their doorstep but on "those people's" instead and how they are happy about that. It's like poor people are being demonized in the process. The mindset of people...
I've never let a random worker into my house. Only with references and most often a close friend of someone I know.
Thank you!
People that hire suspect or random contractors/subs who in turn pick up people off the street or wherever they can get cheap labor have those problems.
You hire those people and sure enough stuff is missing from all over your house, not just areas they were supposed to be working. Jewelry, silver, antiques, watches, anything that can be shoved down their pants, in pockets, in a lunch pail or tool box....
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