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I disagree. Conservatives don’t bash Latinos or Blacks for taking in welfare. I don’t know who’s feeding you those lies. The difference between conservatives and progressives ...
Thanks, but I don't need a lesson. I'm mostly conservative and libertarian. Always voted either GOP or Libertarian.
I've been listening to conservative talk radio since the late 1970s, through to the early 2000s. I stopped about then, because I was disgusted with conservatism's pro-Iraq War stance.
I also subscribed to various conservative and libertarians magazines throughout the 1980s to early 2000s: National Review, The American Spectator, Chronicles of Culture, Liberty, The American Conservative. Also to The Nation and CounterPunch.
Do you prefer the word "criticize" rather than "bash"?
Yes, I know, conservatism is about "individualism," yada, yada. But many of its writers do name blacks and Latinos as groups when discussing welfare -- yet carefully refrain from naming Ultra-Orthodox Jews on welfare. Instead, it's all praise for the latter's "conservative values," ignoring that welfare dependency is not a conservative value.
Conservatives are hypocrites when discussing Ultra-Orthodox Jews -- as are progressives. Put a cross on public property, and progressives will scream until it's removed. Yet progressives utter not a peep as to all the giant menorahs on public property every Hannukhah.
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Conservatives bash blacks and Hispanics for taking welfare, but hypocritically ignore Ultra-Orthodox Jews, who take more welfare per capita than any other group.
It's so ironic.
1. Dems give the Ultra-Orthodox Jews welfare -- and subsidize their religious schools, and allow them to put menorahs on public property, and allow them segregated beaches, all in violation of Separation of Church and State.
2. Republicans bash everyone except Ultra-Orthodox Jews for being on welfare.
3. And still, Ultra-Orthodox Jews complain of "anti-Semitism" at the drop of a hat. (By which they mean, they only got 99% of the special privileges they demanded.)
This thread is about masks not about you thinking Republicans should bash Ultra-Orthodox Jews in addition to blacks and Hispanics for being on welfare
Thanks, but I don't need a lesson. I'm mostly conservative and libertarian. Always voted either GOP or Libertarian.
I've been listening to conservative talk radio since the late 1970s, through to the early 2000s. I stopped about then, because I was disgusted with conservatism's pro-Iraq War stance.
I also subscribed to various conservative and libertarians magazines throughout the 1980s to early 2000s: National Review, The American Spectator, Chronicles of Culture, Liberty, The American Conservative. Also to The Nation and CounterPunch.
Do you prefer the word "criticize" rather than "bash"?
Yes, I know, conservatism is about "individualism," yada, yada. But many of its writers do name blacks and Latinos as a group when discussing welfare -- yet carefully refrain from treating Ultra-Orthodox Jews on welfare with equal disdain. Instead, it's all praise for the latter's "conservative values," ignoring that welfare dependency is not a conservative value.
Conservatives are hypocrites on the Ultra-Orthodox Jews -- as are progressives. Put a cross on public property, and progressives will scream until it's removed. Yet progressives utter not a peep as to all the giant menorahs on public property every Hannukhah.
Cross on public land, straw argument. No one is talking about it, and when Christmas comes, there is public display of religious ornaments and nativity scenes. BTW, red states have pockets of welfare recipients, it is the blue states that pay more in taxes every year and receive less in funding. Do your favorite radio hosts mention this ? Ultra-orthodox Jews obviously get welfare benefits disproportionately, but their population is on a much smaller scale. Either way, you've come here to comment about something that does not relate to the thread topic. Where do YOU stand regarding wearing mask in public ?
I disagree. Conservatives don’t bash Latinos or Blacks for taking in welfare. I don’t know who’s feeding you those lies. The difference between conservatives and progressives is that conservatives see people as individuals capable of taking personal responsibility regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation, whereas progressives lump people together by labels and race.
Conservatives believe everyone is smart enough to pull their own weight through proper discipline and smart life choices, whilst progressives see everyone as victims if they’re not straight Caucasian males.
It's not a lie. It's the whole Reagan welfare queen mindset that is still prevalent today. You should see how many make assumptions about me...l UK ake yes I speak proper English and NO I am not unemployed and sitting on my a** not doing anything.
This thread is about masks not about you thinking Republicans should bash Ultra-Orthodox Jews in addition to blacks and Hispanics for being on welfare
This thread is about Ultra-Orthodox Jews thinking the rules don't apply to them. (Yet again.)
And why is that?
It's because no one holds them accountable. Progressive media and politicians will criticize whites, straights, men, and Christians. Conservative media and politicians will criticize gays, feminists, people of color, and Muslims. But both political sides shy away from criticizing, well, you know.
DeBlasio is a rare exception. I dislike much about DeBlasio, but at least he's consistent on masks. Kudos for that.
It's not a lie. It's the whole Reagan welfare queen mindset that is still prevalent today. You should see how many make assumptions about me...l UK ake yes I speak proper English and NO I am not unemployed and sitting on my a** not doing anything.
The ultra-orthodox are a tiny minority of the state, none the less the country. Most people don't even know they exist, and certainly don't know much about them other than them dressing funny.
As for blacks and Hispanics, they disproportionately receive public service - particularly blacks, who utilize it at a rate roughly 4x as whites.
It's not a lie. It's the whole Reagan welfare queen mindset that is still prevalent today. You should see how many make assumptions about me...l UK ake yes I speak proper English and NO I am not unemployed and sitting on my a** not doing anything.
How do you know the people making assumptions about you are not Democrats or progressives? The truth is that many people make assumptions about everyone all the time regardless of where it's coming from. But I think that you only notice when people whom you assume are conservatives do so.
This thread is about Ultra-Orthodox Jews thinking the rules don't apply to them. (Yet again.)
And why is that?
Because they vote for Trump and Trump holds rallies where almost nobody wear masks except for a select 20 or so who are behind him at the podium for the cameras
Although maybe not enough people in Borough park wear masks some of the Ultra Orthodox do and you can see in the video clip most of them are wearing masks. The article is about two particular people, Radio host Heshy Tischler and some random bigot named Heshy Brach who even Tischler tries to clam down
^^ this is a still from the video of the NYC Health Commissioners David Chokshi and Dr. Dave Chokshi speaking outside in the community and get interpreted by Tischler and Brach. As you can see in the background many of the neighborhood people wearing masks.
It's a radio host, not a leader of the community. I don't support weddings and other gatherings where too many people are not wearing masks, or Tischler's view but this is a very small part of NY and a group that does little mingling outside of their community.
People in general except for occasional examples are not getting penalized for not wearing masks. The last time I looked they had already passed a law that you can't not wear mask in the subway but yet no arrest were made. Cops largely are not going to bother with it.
The majority of Trump supporters think COVID is very overblown and masks are an infringement on their freedom and we can see that in the forum, most people want the restaurants open
De Blasio says 'urgent action' needed to contain coronavirus clusters in Orthodox communities
The city has shut down two yeshivas, including one in Far Rockaway with more than 2,000 students that was closed last week after at least 13 coronavirus cases were confirmed.
“A number of community leaders are themselves sounding the alarm, because this uptick has come on very intensely,” de Blasio said. “If there’s a place that violates the state rules and the city rules, of course that has to be addressed. And if some place has to be shut down, it will be.”
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