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All one needs to do is look at the stats .
No mayor in the history of New York City
has been able to drop crime in such dramatic
fashion.
As a life long New Yorker he was the greatest mayor of
my time. Lowest Crime rate and lowest property taxes.
Nuff said....
You're completely ignoring the fact that the crack epidemic was ending, the economy was improving, and violent crime dropped dramatically EVERYWHERE over that decade. Crime would have dropped significantly with or without him at the helm. He benefited immensely from lucky timing.
I don't understand why people who claim to be New Yorkers are so gung ho to destroy one of the quintessential things that make NYC, NYC? Hurry up, move to Podunk where you really would prefer to be.
Bc we're sick and tired of the wasteful spending and being 20 years behind where they should be technologically .not to mention outside of manhattan public transportation is a joke.
Bc we're sick and tired of the wasteful spending and being 20 years behind where they should be technologically .not to mention outside of manhattan public transportation is a joke.
So direct your ire at fixing it, not on dismantling it. Because what you are discussing pretty much would destroy what is quintessential to the very identify of NYC.
Yea, provided that there are some auditing and changes to the MTA, that there is federal funding for capital construction improvements that also improve operating costs, and that there's some expectation that there'll be medical advances and better leadership that takes us out of the pandemic.
The entire country had similar drops in crime. So you're giving a man credit for being on the watch for something that happened nationally. Was he responsible for the crime drop in every city in the country?
If it was a Democrat, you'd have no problem giving him credit. Typical liberal BS...
If it was a Democrat, you'd have no problem giving him credit. Typical liberal BS...
No. All you have to do is use a little common sense and look at the trends beyond your back yard. When you see the same things happening beyond your borders, you realize he isn't nearly as responsible for it. Bill Clinton wasn't responsible either. Changes in the drug trade and a strengthening economy were largely responsible.
If it was a Democrat, you'd have no problem giving him credit. Typical liberal BS...
I would have problems and I was a pretty staunch Republican for a kid when Giuliani was mayor of NYC. I also brought up the same thing in a topic where Dinkins's term was mentioned as when crime in NYC actually started falling, which while true, doesn't mean much in the context of most of the urban cores of developed countries all saw rising crime rates through the latter half of the 20th century until a drop started happening around the early 90s, give or a take a couple of years, for all of them. Neither Dinkins nor Giuliani were the mayors of all urban cores in the US and NYC's urban core wasn't the first one to start the fall in the US--moreover, this was something that happened in multiple countries around the same time with some a bit earlier and some a bit later than NYC's drop. It's insane that people still don't understand this. Now does this mean there is no effect from either Dinkins or Giuliani's actions? No, that's probably not true, but it's almost certainly not the primary factor.
How much do you enjoy crime? Living among it? Seeing it? I would assume you'd prefer there to be less violent crime rather than more, the same as me. I think part of that is then being cognizant of what are actually the factors that increase or decrease crime rates rather than trying to say things like "liberal BS" which essentially means giving up trying to make any effort to look at and understand the data.
Are you punting the data that doesn't agree with your narrative?
I'm not but you are... Liberals have a one mind track when it comes to who does what. Democrats are either great, OR if they aren't, somehow the Republicans are the reason for it. LOL
De Blasio is a BIG part of the problem for the crime in this City, which has definitely negatively impacted the MTA, as people look to driving and not using things like the subways to get around.
So direct your ire at fixing it, not on dismantling it. Because what you are discussing pretty much would destroy what is quintessential to the very identify of NYC.
Actually the Politicians have already done that. They ended entertainment, night life and tourism. Those are quintessential to the identity of NYC!
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