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Old 01-16-2021, 02:56 AM
 
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While I wouldn't know if this is unusual or not, I don't know if I would willingly ever submit to a drug or alcohol test either, regardless of whether I had been drinking/doing drugs or not.
There are ramifications for not doing so .

Personally I would do whatever I had to since I have nothing to hide
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Old 01-16-2021, 03:01 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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There are ramifications for not doing so .

Personally I would do whatever I had to since I have nothing to hide
There very well may be . . . it all depends on the circumstances of an incident and the jurisdiction. I guess it's the attorney in me. I just hesitate to do things that I don't have to do.

People sometimes get caught up in other things by "cooperating" with police at traffic stops or otherwise, thinking that they are being helpful and have nothing to hide. But the police have their own preconceived notions (they are, after all, human) and we've already seen cases where the police and prosecutors let narratives run wild. And it doesn't even have to be intentional.

Now, if the law requires me to provide a sample or I would lose my job if I don't provide a sample, that's another story. Heck, even if I'm faced with temporary suspension of my license while the case proceeds against me (for refusing to submit to a test), I may reconsider, assuming that I'm innocent.
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Old 01-16-2021, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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Of course your first thoughts is for people to sue.
DUH. Absolutely. Those on board almost lost their lives and suffered legit injuries
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Old 01-16-2021, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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There are ramifications for not doing so .

Personally I would do whatever I had to since I have nothing to hide
They’re gonna force him out of the job anyway
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Old 01-16-2021, 06:17 AM
 
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They’re gonna force him out of the job anyway
As they likely should ..this whole accident looks fishy
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Old 01-16-2021, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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As they likely should ..this whole accident looks fishy
+1

he refused a drug test, and that’s what caused it
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Old 01-16-2021, 08:00 AM
 
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Of course your first thoughts is for people to sue.
Oh, you know the lawyers were there before they got all the people off the bus. They heart New York.
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Old 01-16-2021, 08:16 AM
 
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Oh, you know the lawyers were there before they got all the people off the bus. They heart New York.
Yup
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Old 01-16-2021, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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The driver has been suspended without pay
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Old 01-16-2021, 12:16 PM
 
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There are specific ramifications under union contracts for public transit employees who refuse drug tests under these circumstances. It's not quite like if you're involved in an accident as a private citizen. Understandable as you're being paid to do the job safely and it's not just you who is potentially liable for any harm you might cause.

I'm with everyone marveling at that bus's holding together.
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