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Not surprised... had to do some work in a residential tower - not this tall, but halfway there - and it was nothing like a normal apartment building. All kinds of wacky problems that a regular building doesn't get. The ventilation is mostly mechanical cause you can't really open the windows, half the neighbors don't live there cause it's their second or third home, and good luck if the elevators are down. These towers make interesting offices, but they're really not made to be homes.
I was hanging at with a friend of mine in NJ. This was at a club he belongs to. There were other members there. One of them was in construction and worked on 432 Park. He said that it failed it's wind load testing. So one day don't be surprised if you hear that this building has laid itself out on a 57th street.
There is such a think as too tall and too thin. And it is now not the tallest, thinnest building on 57th.
One of them was in construction and worked on 432 Park. He said that it failed it's wind load testing. So one day don't be surprised if you hear that this building has laid itself out on a 57th street.
There is such a think as too tall and too thin. And it is now not the tallest, thinnest building on 57th.
Oh, boy. I don't wish for it to collapse at all but if it does, I hope it collapses pancake style (I think that's what they call it, kind of like how the towers fell) with the floors collapsing on top of each other while still remaining vertical. That way, it causes the least amount of damage. I'm concerned because my bldg is only a few blocks away. If that thing collapses horizontally...oh, no.
I hope your friend is wrong because how could it have gotten permission if it failed a wind load test?
I was hanging at with a friend of mine in NJ. This was at a club he belongs to. There were other members there. One of them was in construction and worked on 432 Park. He said that it failed it's wind load testing. So one day don't be surprised if you hear that this building has laid itself out on a 57th street.
There is such a think as too tall and too thin. And it is now not the tallest, thinnest building on 57th.
This sounds like a tall tale. *pun intended*
As originally designed minus mechanical space the building was going to be questionably stable. Part of the reason the developers got away with so much height extension was the repeating use of mechanical space allows wind to pass through the building and reduce load forces against any one side. The initial plans may be what this friend is referencing.
I have no way to confirm it. We were just sitting around a table gabbing. I don't personally know the guy in question. My friend knows him from the club. This was now a few years back. Just random scuttlebutt, so take it for what it's worth.
I really hope what he's saying can't be true because of code enforcement. But how good is code enforcement?
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This sounds like a tall tale. *pun intended*
As originally designed minus mechanical space the building was going to be questionably stable. Part of the reason the developers got away with so much height extension was the repeating use of mechanical space allows wind to pass through the building and reduce load forces against any one side. The initial plans may be what this friend is referencing.
I have no way to confirm it. We were just sitting around a table gabbing. I don't personally know the guy in question. My friend knows him from the club. This was now a few years back. Just random scuttlebutt, so take it for what it's worth.
I really hope what he's saying can't be true because of code enforcement. But how good is code enforcement?
This reminds me of the Citicorp building on 53rd St that's built on stilts. A co-worker was the daughter of the architect who designed it or worked on it (we worked across the street), I forget exactly, but apparently it was not built for certain winds, as it stands on stilts. So they designed this spherical thing called a tuned mass damper to keep it from blowing over. The problem is apparently if the power goes out it stops working and the power is likely to go out in a hurricane, so they had to come up with an evacuation plan for like 10 city blocks and bolster the stilts the building was built on because St. Peter's wouldn't let them tear down the church, so they had to build around it.
I wonder how a tuned mass damper would do at 432 Park Avenue.
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