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Yah I think this is why the post office is no longer open 24 hours to people with po boxes.
So many places that once were 24/7 shut that down even before covid thanks to homeless camping out.
McDonald's on Third near 85th once was twenty four hours, but stopped FWIU because late/overnight it was mostly homeless and not enough paying customers to remain open. Believe that is why the TD Bank across street turns into a homeless shelter overnight. Same area bums needed another place to squat overnight.
Not sure but think the McDonald's on First near 68th also stopped 24/7.
Rite Aid on UES puts away or moves chairs from pharmacy area after about 10pm or so because otherwise homeless park themselves there for night and sleep. Some while there help themselves to stuff off shelves either as five finger discount or shop soil. Things like take magazines and newspapers off stands along with reading glasses, then set themselves up a little library (complete with snacks). Same thing used to happen at Duane Reade across street, but they first took chairs away, now are closed from about 2AM to 6AM.
H&H Bagels on Second between 80th and 81st stopped being open 24/7 about a year or so ago now as well. Homeless and others that used to camp out there had to find other spots.
Come to think of it very little is open 24/7 in my area nowadays. Places that maybe ten or so years ago were open well past midnight now shut down by 11PM or so.
Not freezing to death on a night like this isn't really a game, though. This is stuff people do because they are too messed up to survive in the regular system but there's nothing else for them. In the end, it'd be a lot cheaper to figure out how to get them homed than to play whack-a-mole, and everyone's quality of life would go up. (I was in a CVS the other day that's a popular spot for the homeless, and the Secret deodorant was behind locked plastic. Secret!!!!)
Not freezing to death on a night like this isn't really a game, though. This is stuff people do because they are too messed up to survive in the regular system but there's nothing else for them. In the end, it'd be a lot cheaper to figure out how to get them homed than to play whack-a-mole, and everyone's quality of life would go up. (I was in a CVS the other day that's a popular spot for the homeless, and the Secret deodorant was behind locked plastic. Secret!!!!)
For ages NYC like SF, LA, Boston, Seattle and other area did have a solution; flop houses on "skid row".
But people got all indigent about single room occupancy hotels and banned more from being opened, then turned a blind eye while high real estate values caused developers to harass or otherwise get people out so property could be redeveloped. Result is what you see now, people living rough on streets.
Leaving aside the mentally ill (who often did end up in SRO/flop houses after deinstitutionalization closed state hospitals), a decent place wasn't that bad. Certainly was better than sleeping rough on streets.
For ages NYC like SF, LA, Boston, Seattle and other area did have a solution; flop houses on "skid row".
But people got all indigent about single room occupancy hotels and banned more from being opened, then turned a blind eye while high real estate values caused developers to harass or otherwise get people out so property could be redeveloped. Result is what you see now, people living rough on streets.
Leaving aside the mentally ill (who often did end up in SRO/flop houses after deinstitutionalization closed state hospitals), a decent place wasn't that bad. Certainly was better than sleeping rough on streets.
I will say that about a 7 minute drive away from me there's an area that has a few SROs and the neighborhood is not pleasant to walk around, daytime or night. Decent amount of EDPs stroll the area. I don't avoid going to this area, however my spidey senses are up when going there.
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I will say that about a 7 minute drive away from me there's an area that has a few SROs and the neighborhood is not pleasant to walk around, daytime or night. Decent amount of EDPs stroll the area. I don't avoid going to this area, however my spidey senses are up when going there.
Problem is that SROs being pubic accommodations they cannot discriminate; but if some way were found to restrict things to working able bodied people, and others not likely to be trouble makers then things might be different for surrounding area. People who work all day come home tired and don't have time (or usually strength) to make trouble.
For the mentally ill that is a whole other ball of wax. Federal, state and local governments need to provide the huge amount of funding needed to build specific supportive housing.
Problem is that SROs being pubic accommodations they cannot discriminate; but if some way were found to restrict things to working able bodied people, and others not likely to be trouble makers then things might be different for surrounding area. People who work all day come home tired and don't have time (or usually strength) to make trouble.
For the mentally ill that is a whole other ball of wax. Federal, state and local governments need to provide the huge amount of funding needed to build specific supportive housing.
True. The SROs I'm talking about have been there since before I was born, holdouts from a past era.
I wouldn't mind my tax money going towards supportive housing.
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SROs were nightmares and not the equivalent of supportive housing at all. The people stealing Secret to sell for food aren't working, able-bodied adults, either. They're broke kids (annoying, obviously, but a lot of them will grow out of it) or people who are really messed up.
I will say that about a 7 minute drive away from me there's an area that has a few SROs and the neighborhood is not pleasant to walk around, daytime or night. Decent amount of EDPs stroll the area. I don't avoid going to this area, however my spidey senses are up when going there.
Are you talking about the SROs and nursing homes in Rockaway Park next to the boardwalk?
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