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Families with a toddler enrolled in a New York City preschool can now officially apply for Gifted and Talented program, officials announced Monday.
Last month, the DOE announced instead of basing admission for G&T programs on a single exam, it would select students via a lottery questionnaire. The, the department says, is designed to help parents identify their child’s strengths and weaknesses, is available through MySchools website or by contacting a Family Welcome Center and are available in nine languages.
After parents submit their questionnaire, their child’s pre-k teacher will then submit a second questionnaire on the toddler’s aptitude for the program.
For interested families with a child that is not enrolled in a Pre-K for All program, the department will encourage the to sign up for a seat. If parents end up enrolling their child in pre-k, their new school will decide if the child is eligible for a G&T program based on short remote interview, according to a DOE spokesperson.
If a family does not enroll their child in pre-k, a member of a early childhood team will decide if a toddler is suited for a G&T program after conducting a remote interview.
First off, it's just ridiculous to decide who is and is not gifted at only four or five years old. Even NY state testing does not begin until the third grade. Sure there are always a few kids who are profoundly gifted --the Mozart or John Stuart Mill types -- but they're so few and far between that you just can't run a whole system based on that level of giftedness. What giftedness boils down to in New York City is basically reading before 1st grade, identifying patterns, and the ability to do at least some middle school math. There are lots of kids who can do this--thus the never ending fight of parents to get into the G&T schools and programs-- and lots more who might hold the potential to be several years above grade level but never gain entry into a public school G&T program. Their parents don't know how, there's not enough space in existing programs, or there are no G&T programs at all in their district.
So bottom line is that the thing to do is expand higher-level learning opportunities after the third grade so that there are enough programs to go around, withhold all G&T testing until then, and then to admit students using a three-pronged approach: teacher input, parent input, AND a test. Gives kids time to do a little bit of maturing and adapting to school, parents a bit more time to see if little Johnny really is a genius, teachers who have actually worked with the kid a chance to weigh in, and a test that demonstrates what they know or might come to know.
Do you know if this applies to schools that are all g&T like Nestm+, brooklyn tech and Stuyvesant high school or do they remain under the same testing process?
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio appears to be dragging his feet again when it comes to making reforms to the city’s starkly segregated gifted and talented programs — and comments made Tuesday by schools Chancellor Meisha Porter at a state Senate hearing made it even more unclear when any changes might be announced.
De Blasio promised last month to present “a very different approach” for gifted programs, saying changes would be announced by the end of September.
That deadline has come and gone. On Tuesday, Porter suggested the timeline may get stretched out further, saying the city would be starting a process to engage with the public about any changes.
Meanwhile, time is ticking for anxious families. Usually, the test for the program’s 2,500 kindergarten seats is given in January, and many parents spend time and money prepping their 4-year-olds for it.
Education department spokesperson Katie O’Hanlon did not answer questions about when the city would announce the admissions process or other changes to the gifted program this year, or whether the reforms would be delayed to collect more feedback from parents and others.
With only about three months left in de Blasio’s term-limited tenure, Sen. John Liu said the city should wait until a new mayor — and, most likely, a new chancellor — is in place to usher in reforms.
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio appears to be dragging his feet again when it comes to making reforms to the city’s starkly segregated gifted and talented programs — and comments made Tuesday by schools Chancellor Meisha Porter at a state Senate hearing made it even more unclear when any changes might be announced.
De Blasio promised last month to present “a very different approach” for gifted programs, saying changes would be announced by the end of September.
That deadline has come and gone. On Tuesday, Porter suggested the timeline may get stretched out further, saying the city would be starting a process to engage with the public about any changes.
Meanwhile, time is ticking for anxious families. Usually, the test for the program’s 2,500 kindergarten seats is given in January, and many parents spend time and money prepping their 4-year-olds for it.
Education department spokesperson Katie O’Hanlon did not answer questions about when the city would announce the admissions process or other changes to the gifted program this year, or whether the reforms would be delayed to collect more feedback from parents and others.
With only about three months left in de Blasio’s term-limited tenure, Sen. John Liu said the city should wait until a new mayor — and, most likely, a new chancellor — is in place to usher in reforms.
Yes, the program segregates the smart motivated kids away from the ignorant sullen kids.
Just like the new governor as trashed many Cuomo's pet projects a new mayor will do the same. Deblasio is nothing but a fake progressive. He does what his wife and buddies tell him to do. And he says something but does something else.
He's fooled so many idiots that I told not to vote for and now they regret for voting a fake progressive.
Never trust liberals, even Trump can be trusted more than liberals.
Mayor Bill de Blasio is planning to phase out the city’s “Gifted and Talented” classes during the last three months of his time in office and replace it with a new “accelerated” teaching model called “Brilliant NYC” in all public elementary schools starting in the fall of next year.
The long-awaited details come over a week past the mayor’s self-imposed deadline after he told a woman who called into WNYC’s “The Brian Lehrer Show” in September that the City would announce changes to the program by the end of the month.
Normally, every year thousands of four-year-olds try to gain entrance into the program by sitting for a single high-stakes test, and typically out of those that apply only about 2,500 are offered admission. But now, de Blasio plans on scrapping the admissions exam for toddlers and instead allowing incoming third graders to undergo academic screens to gauge if an accelerated learning program is right for them.
The new policy will expand accelerated learning programs from 80 to 800 schools with the hopes of boosting the number of accelerated learning students to 65,000. In another major shift, under “Brilliant NYC” students enrolled in an accelerated learning program will remain in mixed classrooms.
“The era of judging four-year-olds based on a single test is over. Brilliant NYC will deliver accelerated instruction for tens of thousands of children, as opposed to a select few,” said de Blasio. “Every New York City child deserves to reach their full potential, and this new, equitable model gives them that chance.”
Though Mayor Bill de Blasio seemed to put the final nail in the coffin for the Department of Education’s Gifted & Talented (G&T) program last week, the man likely to replace him as mayor next year has given some indication he might not be willing to bury the initiative at all.
Brooklyn Borough President and Democratic mayoral nominee Eric Adams has given previous indications that he would continue the program designed for high-achieving New York City students, but with necessary reform, should he become the city’s 110th mayor in November. But on Oct. 8, de Blasio announced his administration would end the kindergarten tests for the G&T program and replace the initiative altogether with “Brilliant NYC,” which would expand accelerated learning programs tenfold across the city’s public school system while simultaneously eliminating the screening process that critics say has skewed G&T toward white, Asian and more affluent students.
The Daily Mail reported on Sunday, however, that Adams would likely abandon de Blasio’s Brilliant NYC plan as the city’s chief executive next year. Quoting an Adams campaign spokesperson, the Daily Mail reported that Adams “has said consistently he would keep the Gifted and Talented test, and provide more resources, classes and support to lower-income students to ensure fairer outcomes.”
I don't think schools matter as much anymore. Companies even ivy league now must hire based on identity and use quotas to meet the thresholds so it doesn't matter what friggin HS you went or what your SAT scores are.
This is why so many tech companies are using a different hiring methodology than just taking all the top school kids.
Every time I attend a corporate meeting these days I'm met with so many identity hires that don't know anything and represent the quotas the employers must meet. At the end of the day all the real work is being outsourced and they don't give a damn what color are the outsourcing companies.
The future means that hiring will be based on identity and less academic metrics, experience will still trump.
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