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Old 03-15-2021, 07:28 AM
 
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Absolutely as I discovered a few days.

Unless California can import NY water to make their bagels, I would say that their claim is "fake news"!
The water thing is fake news.

https://www.thrillist.com/lifestyle/...s-quality-test

Long Island gets its water from a different source than NYC but I’ve never heard about there being a difference between a bagel in Queens vs. one a mile away in Nassau County.
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:51 AM
 
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Yep, outlanders buy a bag of Lender's "bagels" and think they are actually eating a BAGEL.

LA is famous for mudslides, earthquakes, forest fire smoke, and too many cars, and out-of-work actor/waiters.

Who the Hell is Tejal Rao?

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Old 03-15-2021, 11:14 AM
 
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What makes a great bagel ? softness ?
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Old 03-15-2021, 11:17 AM
 
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The water thing is fake news.

https://www.thrillist.com/lifestyle/...s-quality-test

Long Island gets its water from a different source than NYC but I’ve never heard about there being a difference between a bagel in Queens vs. one a mile away in Nassau County.
There is definitely some truth to the water. I was a homebrewer for years. Attention to water chemistry is how you take your beers to the next level. NYC has extremely soft water with very little trace elements to mess with the yeast. I'm no baker, but it has to affect bread yeast similarly.

Back in the day I was quite versed in how to manipulate NYC water to achieve whatever results I was looking for in a particular batch.
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Old 03-15-2021, 02:04 PM
 
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Jeez even I'll defend NYC on this one.

I've had great pizza in plenty of other places, but never a good bagel.

Actually I think bagels are tied with NJ.


I have not had the Montreal bagel though.


next, Connecticut will make the bagel a state bread
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Old 03-15-2021, 04:39 PM
 
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Yep, outlanders buy a bag of Lender's "bagels" and think they are actually eating a BAGEL.
Lender's Bagels! Whoo boy did you just bring me back. I used to shovel those Lender's onion bagels in when I was a child! Haven't had one of those in years.
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Old 03-15-2021, 04:58 PM
 
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I am from NYC born and raised but now live in CA.

NO WAY that CA has better bagels. Still have not found H&H Quality and never will. Remember that place on 14th in the meatpacking district ? Forgot the name but would get fresh bagels at like 5am after clubbing.

CA Does Not have that quality. Different texture all together.
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Old 03-15-2021, 05:07 PM
 
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NO WAY that CA has better bagels. Still have not found H&H Quality and never will. Remember that place on 14th in the meatpacking district ? Forgot the name but would get fresh bagels at like 5am after clubbing.
Yes. And same with H&H on 46th Street. That was right next to the club
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Old 03-16-2021, 05:43 AM
 
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I am from NYC born and raised but now live in CA.

NO WAY that CA has better bagels. Still have not found H&H Quality and never will. Remember that place on 14th in the meatpacking district ? Forgot the name but would get fresh bagels at like 5am after clubbing.

CA Does Not have that quality. Different texture all together.
Bagels from the Greater NYC Area (which include Long Island and New Jersey) are definitely better than anyone could find in California. My California relatives visit NYC and always want bagels for breakfast during their stay!
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Old 03-16-2021, 04:58 PM
 
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There is definitely some truth to the water. I was a homebrewer for years. Attention to water chemistry is how you take your beers to the next level. NYC has extremely soft water with very little trace elements to mess with the yeast. I'm no baker, but it has to affect bread yeast similarly.

Back in the day I was quite versed in how to manipulate NYC water to achieve whatever results I was looking for in a particular batch.
But NYC water comes from upstate, doesn’t it, and LI water comes from underground aquifers. I guess they are similar?

Of course this is all different than CA water, and FL water is a mess.
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