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Old 03-31-2021, 07:42 PM
 
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I get it, but still see that as an excuse. Unless one is moving to the absolute sticks, this is still the United States. Plenty of solid medical options nationwide.
Until you get something like cancer. Then the difference between “solid” medical care and “exceptional world renowned” medical care becomes apparent. NYC isn’t the only place in the country with good doctors and hospitals but it’s unique in that it has a concentration of several of them that are easy to access for second opinions, different treatment options, clinical trials, etc.

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Old 03-31-2021, 07:55 PM
 
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Definitely not enough for me to justify living in that city any longer.
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Old 03-31-2021, 08:01 PM
 
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This was done in 2019. Throw it out the window. The analysis no longer applies. This was before covid ripped urban cities to threads like LA and NYC, and before the BLM thugs were burning police stations and wilding through the streets.

What senior would move to NYC with the above + no more restaurants + risk of covid all the time because it's never leaving a place like NYC due to density?

2020 figures show older people are still flocking to Florida, Vegas, Carolinas and AZ.
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Old 03-31-2021, 09:12 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I won’t stay here for retirement. I’m here to make as much money as I can and retire early. I’ll likely move out of the country to someplace beautiful like Costa Rica. But I can see NYC as a place to retire. Best medical facilities in the world, no car needed, tons of shows to see, lots of senior citizen discounts, the list goes on.

I can see the appeal, especially for gay couples, etc.

After I retire, if I ever get cancer or another major illness, nyc will be where I will go. And I plan to visit once a year for shows and culture.

No big deal now though. I’m 40 and have years to go. I do have to say the wife and I are stacking cash by living here. You cannot make money like this outside a major city like New York.
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Old 03-31-2021, 09:55 PM
 
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Until you get something like cancer. Then the difference between “solid” medical care and “exceptional world renowned” medical care becomes apparent. NYC isn’t the only place in the country with good doctors and hospitals but it’s unique in that it has a concentration of several of them that are easy to access for second opinions, different treatment options, clinical trials, etc.
Lol

Have you used/experienced the NYC health system?
Yes, there are plenty of "world renowned" this and that but the system itself is atrocious. It was bad before COVID and COVID simply broke it.

Maybe it's one of a kind for some rare diseases but from a "50k foot" view it's completely broken. I will give you that some Hospitals/clinics are far better than others and they're mainly in Manhattan.

I've had the unfortunate pleasure of constantly dealing with the system the past few years as my grandparents are getting older and it still shocks me how third world it is.
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Old 03-31-2021, 10:12 PM
 
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Until you get something like cancer. Then the difference between “solid” medical care and “exceptional world renowned” medical care becomes apparent. NYC isn’t the only place in the country with good doctors and hospitals but it’s unique in that it has a concentration of several of them that are easy to access for second opinions, different treatment options, clinical trials, etc.
Or an autoimmune disease like RA, MS, lupus or a younger person with a sick child.
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Old 03-31-2021, 10:15 PM
 
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Definitely not enough for me to justify living in that city any longer.
NJ also has a lot of good healthcare options and choices. Hopefully, you won't need them in the near future, but if you did, it's nice to know that they are there. Plus you have the option of either Philly or NYC for specialized care.
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Old 04-01-2021, 06:29 AM
 
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Lol

Have you used/experienced the NYC health system?
Yes, there are plenty of "world renowned" this and that but the system itself is atrocious. It was bad before COVID and COVID simply broke it.

Maybe it's one of a kind for some rare diseases but from a "50k foot" view it's completely broken. I will give you that some Hospitals/clinics are far better than others and they're mainly in Manhattan.

I've had the unfortunate pleasure of constantly dealing with the system the past few years as my grandparents are getting older and it still shocks me how third world it is.
Yes I have ample familiarity with the NYC healthcare. 1. My father was a doctor and practiced in NYC and Westchester and 2. an immediate family member had stage 4 cancer and because of easy access to MSK which is ranked 1st or 2nd in the world for cancer treatment (with locations in Manhattan and Westchester), she beat the survival odds.

Your complaints about “the system” are likely not unique to nyc since the healthcare system in the United States is broken.
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Old 04-01-2021, 06:53 AM
 
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Yes I have ample familiarity with the NYC healthcare. 1. My father was a doctor and practiced in NYC and Westchester and 2. an immediate family member had stage 4 cancer and because of easy access to MSK which is ranked 1st or 2nd in the world for cancer treatment (with locations in Manhattan and Westchester), she beat the survival odds.

Your complaints about “the system” are likely not unique to nyc since the healthcare system in the United States is broken.
There are always people that beat the odds. That's why there are odds in the first place.

The correct question is, are survival /recovery percentages for various diseases better in the NYC metro area than in other parts of the country? I don't think you'll find that to be the case. They may be in certain, very specific instances but those instances do not pertain to 99% of individuals.
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Old 04-01-2021, 09:24 AM
 
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There are always people that beat the odds. That's why there are odds in the first place.

The correct question is, are survival /recovery percentages for various diseases better in the NYC metro area than in other parts of the country? I don't think you'll find that to be the case. They may be in certain, very specific instances but those instances do not pertain to 99% of individuals.
When you have easy access to hospitals and doctors that are known to be the best at treating certain conditions, you can be sure that survival percentages are going to be better than other areas of the country that don’t have access to those resources. There is a reason why people who don’t live near those hospitals will travel, and sometimes at great expense, to seek treatment at them. You better believe that if, god forbid, I ever got cancer, I’d much rather be treated by doctors at MSK (or Hopkins, or Anderson, etc) than some ra some no name hospital in the sticks.
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