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I dont think we need a law for healthcare workers to be tested. Healthcare workers are reasonably compliant. Unvaccinated have been being tested weekly all along.
Should a healthcare facility have the legal right to fire an unvaccinated employee for refusing to be tested?
stormgal the reason smallpox is not killing millions of people is the vaccine for it.
At the same time some people get serious and life threatening reactions to the vaccine
So these two outcomes have to be compared
I never had a vaccine for smallpox but that’s a vaccine I would’ve wanted along with my MMR. Who knows what nut job government will release smallpox into the wild as a bio weapon. With that being said, it has been proven that the covid 19 vaccines does not prevent spread nor infection. Yet, I still think that people who do not have normal levels of blood glucose, normal A1Cs, are of normal weight and blood pressure, etc - should take the vaccine but at their own will and risk. I think the risks should be explained to them
The rest of the people I wouldn’t recommend the covid vaccine but again that should be left up to the individual to decide for him or herself. I think it’s more of a poison for healthy people given the fact that covid is a cake walk for the truly healthy
Should a healthcare facility have the legal right to fire an unvaccinated employee for refusing to be tested?
yes or no please
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Originally Posted by ComeCloser
Im sorry, but that would depend on their reason for not wanting to be tested.
Should a healthcare facility have the legal right to fire an unvaccinated employee for refusing to be regularly tested
if the person said their reason for not wanting to be tested is that they feel like it's an intrusion into their body and when they were hired they were not informed they would have to be tested
I never had a vaccine for smallpox but that’s a vaccine I would’ve wanted along with my MMR. Who knows what nut job government will release smallpox into the wild as a bio weapon. With that being said, it has been proven that the covid 19 vaccines does not prevent spread nor infection. Yet, I still think that people who do not have normal levels of blood glucose, normal A1Cs, are of normal weight and blood pressure, etc - should take the vaccine but at their own will and risk. I think the risks should be explained to them
The rest of the people I wouldn’t recommend the covid vaccine but again that should be left up to the individual to decide for him or herself. I think it’s more of a poison for healthy people given the fact that covid is a cake walk for the truly healthy
flu vaccine
On average, it’s been 40% effective, meaning it’s prevented illness 40% of the time. Since health officials started tracking it in 2003, effectiveness has varied from year to year, ranging from a low of 10% in 2004-05 to a high of 60% in 2010-11.
“We almost never know ahead of time whether we’ve guessed correctly or not. We can’t say, ‘This year it’s only going to be 10% effective, so don’t get it,’” says Jackson. “But the vaccine is relatively low-cost, with rare side effects, and reducing the risk of hospitalization and death by 50% is better than nothing.”
CDC data indicates Moderna vaccine more effective against delta variant of COVID-19 than Pfizer, J&J
In a weekly report on morbidity and mortality in the US, data shows that the Moderna vaccine effectiveness has a rate of 95% when it comes to hospitalizations due to the delta variant, while Pfizer sits at 80% and Johnson & Johnson at 60%.
he HealthPartners Institute announced the results of two vaccine efficacy studies Friday afternoon, calling them “highly protective” against COVID-19 including the Delta variant.
CBS
New HealthPartners Study Finds Vaccines ‘Highly Effective’, Even Again Delta Variant
“People have been speculating about how effective COVID-19 vaccines are against the Delta variant and we now have evidence that suggests these vaccines are still very protective,” said Malini DeSilva, MD, an investigator with HPI and co-author on the study.
The Israel Ministry of Health said on Monday, July 6, that Pfizer's vaccine worked slightly less well against the Delta variant than previous estimates. The number of people who got infected during the study period was small, and the figure may have included asymptomatic infections.
Pfizer
64% effective after two doses.
Scotland study: Pfizer 79% effective after two doses, 60% for AstraZeneca.
A Scotland-based study published as a letter to the Lancet medical journal on June 14 found that Pfizer's vaccine offered "very good" protection against the Delta variant.
Pfizer
79% effective after two doses, at least 14 days after the second dose.
AstraZeneca
60% effective after two doses, at least 14 days after the second dose.
this question has nothing to do with whether or not you or anybody has taken the vaccine
Should a healthcare facility have the legal right to fire an employee for refusing to be regularly tested
if the person said their reason for not wanting to be tested is that they feel like it's an intrusion into their body and when they were hired they were not informed they would have to be tested
I could ask the same question at a point when the vaccines were not even available
this question has nothing to do with whether or not you or anybody has taken the vaccine
Should a healthcare facility have the legal right to fire an employee for refusing to be regularly tested
if the person said their reason for not wanting to be tested is that they feel like it's an intrusion into their body and when they were hired they were not informed they would have to be tested
I could ask the same question at a point when the vaccines were not even available
I was replying to the monster post on different vaccines.
I answered this question as best I could. I already said everyone would probably comply. You made this person that wont. Why wont they? I cant possibly imagine any of them refusing, so I really cant think of all the reasons they would refuse.
You have to leave that question for someone with a better opinion on it than mine.
I was replying to the monster post on different vaccines.
I answered this question as best I could. I already said everyone would probably comply. You made this person that wont. Why wont they? I cant possibly imagine any of them refusing, so I really cant think of all the reasons they would refuse.
You have to leave that question for someone with a better opinion on it than mine.
Look, half the country is against mask wearing and that is not even an intrusion into someone's body as is a regular test
I gave you their reason they say
"this test is an intrusion into their body and when I was hired not informed they would have to be tested, I am not taking these tests every week, it's socialist control"
On average, it’s been 40% effective, meaning it’s prevented illness 40% of the time. Since health officials started tracking it in 2003, effectiveness has varied from year to year, ranging from a low of 10% in 2004-05 to a high of 60% in 2010-11.
“We almost never know ahead of time whether we’ve guessed correctly or not. We can’t say, ‘This year it’s only going to be 10% effective, so don’t get it,’” says Jackson. “But the vaccine is relatively low-cost, with rare side effects, and reducing the risk of hospitalization and death by 50% is better than nothing.”
CDC data indicates Moderna vaccine more effective against delta variant of COVID-19 than Pfizer, J&J
In a weekly report on morbidity and mortality in the US, data shows that the Moderna vaccine effectiveness has a rate of 95% when it comes to hospitalizations due to the delta variant, while Pfizer sits at 80% and Johnson & Johnson at 60%.
he HealthPartners Institute announced the results of two vaccine efficacy studies Friday afternoon, calling them “highly protective” against COVID-19 including the Delta variant.
CBS
New HealthPartners Study Finds Vaccines ‘Highly Effective’, Even Again Delta Variant
“People have been speculating about how effective COVID-19 vaccines are against the Delta variant and we now have evidence that suggests these vaccines are still very protective,” said Malini DeSilva, MD, an investigator with HPI and co-author on the study.
The Israel Ministry of Health said on Monday, July 6, that Pfizer's vaccine worked slightly less well against the Delta variant than previous estimates. The number of people who got infected during the study period was small, and the figure may have included asymptomatic infections.
Pfizer
64% effective after two doses.
Scotland study: Pfizer 79% effective after two doses, 60% for AstraZeneca.
A Scotland-based study published as a letter to the Lancet medical journal on June 14 found that Pfizer's vaccine offered "very good" protection against the Delta variant.
Pfizer
79% effective after two doses, at least 14 days after the second dose.
AstraZeneca
60% effective after two doses, at least 14 days after the second dose.
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I’ve never in my life taken a flu vaccine and the only time I had the flu was when I was a teenager. That was a long time ago.
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