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Old 06-21-2021, 09:33 AM
 
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I am a firm Marxist but I agree that race really does not play into Marxist theory/fact. "All struggle is class struggle."

There may, however, be some significant overlap between race and class...especially in wealthier countries like the U.S. and Europe.

BTW, Marx DESPISED socialism, and he saw it as the enemy of Communism.
Finally, someone who actually knows what true Marxism is.

 
Old 06-21-2021, 09:36 AM
 
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Finally, someone who actually knows what true Marxism is.
that's great but it's irrelevant. people are arguing over the semantics of what to call it rather than what is actually being taught.it doesn't matter what you want to label it.
 
Old 06-21-2021, 10:05 AM
 
Location: NYC
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you keep moving the goal-post dude and keep changing your story.

first you say that news doesn't talk about it, you were shown that they have repeatedly and continue to.

now you say it doesn't matter if they talk about it and dismiss thousands of clips as .000001%. lol. you can't make this up!

now you're also adding other crime statistics which the news has talked about and continues to talk about also and again suggesting that these statistics are somehow hidden and unknown

then you say blacks kill whites and get away with it (also untrue (again wtf) and it is beyond asinine that one could say something so idiotic)

then you carry on with "what larry elder talks about" as if he's the only one who has talked about this, has these viewpoints and is the only who has shared them on local and national platforms. the other videos shared talk about the exact same thing after you just said that "no one talks about this".

so which is it dude?

it's just apparent by your own admission that you're comparatively young, are ignorant to what's already been discussed. your filler talk about "the media, sheep, etc" blah blah blah highlights this. you're nothing more than a "woke redditor type" who lives in a bubble and eats his own talking points.
I'll make it simple because round and round we go in this forum. This will clarify every point made by almost every post in this subforum.

Black people are solely responsible for every bad thing that ever happened to them from now til eternity. Now carry on.
 
Old 06-21-2021, 10:36 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Black people are solely responsible for every bad thing that ever happened to them from now til eternity. Now carry on.
Incorrect: <fill in the blank superficial characteristic> People in the United States are responsible for how their lives play out because they have every opportunity to get ahead and succeed. In 2021, the only person holding you down is yourself.

There will be people throughout your life, of all sorts of characteristics, that will no doubt do you some sort of harm. This can never be avoided, what you can do is step over those people and overcome. This applies to EVERYONE - black, brown, white, yellow, religious, ethnic- anybody

Life is what you make of it, there's no magical supremacist system holding you down
 
Old 06-21-2021, 11:02 AM
 
Location: NYC
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You can't have Marxism when greed exist and people here love materialism. Just look at all the people here that love socialism or capitalism. They love indulging on the latest gadgets, spending more money than they have on cars and living large in expensive apts in nyc. It doesn't matter some people got their stuff for free via socialism or they profited using capitalism. This is all against Marxism of being anti-capitalistic and anti-dependent on socialism.
 
Old 06-21-2021, 11:20 AM
 
Location: New York City
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You can't have Marxism when greed exist and people here love materialism. Just look at all the people here that love socialism or capitalism. They love indulging on the latest gadgets, spending more money than they have on cars and living large in expensive apts in nyc. It doesn't matter some people got their stuff for free via socialism or they profited using capitalism. This is all against Marxism of being anti-capitalistic and anti-dependent on socialism.
Yes you can. The biggest cultists are trying to abolish the whole system that is responsible for giving them iphones and twitter. This is cognitive dissonance on a cosmic scale. They will say that they want to give iphones to everyone, presumably by taking them from Apple and any millionaire or billionaire

They still want the materialism, but they want it for free
 
Old 06-21-2021, 11:58 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4nDxQ8Rpqs

To all:
this video is the topic of the thread. It regards race

If you have a problem with it you should time stamp and quote what you disagree with
rather than talk about Marx or economic theories
in my opinion

regards this school:

https://ps503online.org

PS 503
330 59th Street
Brooklyn, NY

I don't see anything on their website on race or anything mentioned in this video from
this one particular teacher Alison Dempsey

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Old 06-21-2021, 12:29 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Yes you can. The biggest cultists are trying to abolish the whole system that is responsible for giving them iphones and twitter. This is cognitive dissonance on a cosmic scale. They will say that they want to give iphones to everyone, presumably by taking them from Apple and any millionaire or billionaire

They still want the materialism, but they want it for free
At the end of any great empire, the last being the Great British empire is when people reap the benefits of the country tries great excess and did not produce or compete anymore to maintained the British position as world super power. We are at the beginning of the end of the great US empire. Printing more money than we produce and handing out money to people that won’t work.
 
Old 06-21-2021, 12:32 PM
 
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I'll make it simple because round and round we go in this forum. This will clarify every point made by almost every post in this subforum.

Black people are solely responsible for every bad thing that ever happened to them from now til eternity. Now carry on.
nobody is saying that or that racism doesn't exist.
but if you're a younger black person you should be looking in the mirror and your parenting way more than whitey for any short comings in life.
 
Old 06-21-2021, 01:53 PM
 
Location: New York City
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At the end of any great empire, the last being the Great British empire is when people reap the benefits of the country tries great excess and did not produce or compete anymore to maintained the British position as world super power. We are at the beginning of the end of the great US empire. Printing more money than we produce and handing out money to people that won’t work.
The US isn't an empire unless you regard each state as the territories. We have influence, not control of the rest of the world. And yes I think the end of that cohesion is at hand. I think the country will split along woke and unwoke lines. I just hope it's not a bloody affair.

At the end of the day, the unwoke are armed to the teeth and the woke consider 'mean words' to be violence. I don't think it would end very well at all for them if they started picking off conservatives or classical liberals
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