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View Poll Results: Do you notice a significant increase in vacant storefronts in New York City in the past year?
yes 9 81.82%
no 2 18.18%
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-07-2021, 10:42 PM
 
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Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities are destroying NYC

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A tour of of vacant commercial storefronts and commentary,
theme:
NYC's reopening, but businesses aren't coming back
and much graffiti

Landlords haven't realized it's a renter's market yet

The top two videos are Chelsea, the last one Broadway at Soho, then going North to 14th St

Depressing stuff


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjd1WNhGliY

around 24th and 7th ave, Chelsea




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q53Wxx7aLrs

29th st to 19th st, 6th ave to 5th ave.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuALRyGI3Ho

Broadway from Spring to Noho and 14th.

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Old 07-07-2021, 10:49 PM
 
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For restaurants in NYC everything has been priced to perfection pre-CV. Between the high rents, the higher min wages, dealing with the health department shake downs, the litter police tickets, etc....you have be making a killing to make it worth it.
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Old 07-07-2021, 11:05 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I suspect that the only reason why Morgan Stanley is making people come back to work is because the commercial real estate sector in NYC is collapsing. God forbid their commercial backed securities fail! Also, their employees and customers are banned from entering the office unless they are vaccinated.
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Old 07-08-2021, 02:37 AM
 
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Loads of businesses not involved in real estate are bringing workers back in
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Old 07-08-2021, 03:38 AM
 
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I suspect that the only reason why Morgan Stanley is making people come back to work is because the commercial real estate sector in NYC is collapsing. God forbid their commercial backed securities fail! Also, their employees and customers are banned from entering the office unless they are vaccinated.
Il Duce in Albany, and Sam The Eagle in City Hall likely worked telephones telling large employers to get with the program and start bringing employees back by at least Labor Day. Unless, when or until offices start filling up with employees much of Manhattan and other parts of city just won't come back.

By getting JP Morgan, Google, Goldman Sachs, etc.. to set an example theory probably goes others will follow.
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Old 07-08-2021, 03:44 AM
 
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Many small businesses were just holding on before covid-19, now they're done and not coming back. That or they will forgo physical retail space and do only online.

Just on UES laundries/dry cleaners, waxing places, nail places, and other small service businesses simply closed. A nice new chemist opened on Third between 79th and 80th on east side of street in 2019. Covid hit in 2020 causing them to shut down during lock down, they've since gone out of business.

On other side of things so many businesses of all sorts that took a decade or more to get off the ground are now decimated. Many were small service businesses that saw their customers vanish during covid lock down, and many aren't coming back to city period. They've bought homes in suburbs or whatever and that is that.

For a whole lot of people sh*t is going to hit the fan first week in September when all that free UI money ends. Especially for the self-employed....
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Old 07-08-2021, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Has everyone forgotten the vast stretches of empty NYC commercial real estate....especially in Manhattan.....long before anyone ever heard of covid?

NYC commercial space has been emptying out for over a decade and 5 years ago there were news stories everywhere and threads on here speculating as to why landlords were not lowering rents .

Actually, commercial real estate is pretty much emptying out everywhere ( ghost malls anyone?) and fallout from covid is a relatively minor factor. It's by no means a NYC only phenomenon.

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Old 07-08-2021, 04:35 AM
 
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Has everyone forgotten the vast stretches of empty NYC commercial real estate....especially in Manhattan.....long before anyone ever heard of covid?
Yup. Off the top of my head UWS and 8 Street come to my mind
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Old 07-08-2021, 04:37 AM
 
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Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities are destroying NYC

.
A tour of of vacant commercial storefronts and commentary,
theme:
NYC's reopening, but businesses aren't coming back
and much graffiti

Landlords haven't realized it's a renter's market yet

The top two videos are Chelsea, the last one Broadway at Soho, then going North to 14th St

Depressing stuff


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjd1WNhGliY

around 24th and 7th ave, Chelsea




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q53Wxx7aLrs

29th st to 19th st, 6th ave to 5th ave.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuALRyGI3Ho

Broadway from Spring to Noho and 14th.
Get out there for a walk and see plenty of people and plenty of businesses open.
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Old 07-08-2021, 04:38 AM
 
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Loads of businesses not involved in real estate are bringing workers back in
Wasted effort IMO, lets see how many commercial leases even get renewed
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