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Although business is creeping up in my hotel workplace... it just doesn't seem back & seems like won't be.
Weekends are not as packed as they used to be. Restaurants have people but not really. You go to Columbus Circle on a Friday night , good weather in July and its empty. No cabs , no people, no cars... by 11pm its dead zone. The same goes for Brookyln , Downtown Manhattan & Uptown / Heights.
Midtown is also a ghost town as well. The train during rush hour is about half the people.
I am starting to see the city as forever changed. We all got a taste of staying home and saving money. I am sad to say that it will be a very LONG time until NYC is shadow of what it was pre pandemic. I think with Unemployment money we received it was great . But the true pain will come in Sept when these payments stop ... Thought ?
The bridge and tunnel crowd isn't going to the city at all. Office workers may never go back, tourists aren't there. That's almost 2.5 less people in Manhattan per day. This doesn't even account for the people that fled the city to the suburbs or left the state.
NYC won't go back to normal until 2023 at the earliest. Every one I know says i'm not getting on the LIRR ever again. I know NYC folks hate the bridge and tunnel crowd. The lack of this segment is a massive blow to NYC revenue stream. I'm sure the media overblows the crime and homeless issues a bit, its a major deterrent for suburbanites/tourists. People getting attacked in Times Square during the day isn't helping. I think Adams will help get crime under control. DiBlasi is a doofus.
I don't remember the numbers, Suffolk county w/o any federal aid, blew the tax revenue out of the water. 3rd quarter 2020 and beyond are way up over 2019. Im sure the NYC folks now living in the Hamptons was a big part of it.
I definitely see the city coming back. It will take a bit of time to "get back to pre-COVID," but I go into Manhattan 2 or 3 times per week and in many areas, it is as crowded as it was.
The subways have definitely jumped up in terms of crowds. Most trains are jammed with people again, and bustling decently well.
The big thing I notice in Manhattan--and parts of Brooklyn--are the vacant store fronts. Store fronts in prime west village and prime Williamsburg or prime midtown that are shuttered due to COVID-19. Those will take a while to fill back up.
But this happened to every city in the US, as-a-result of COVID-19.
I think NYC is definitely getting back into the way it was before COVID hit. It will take some areas a bit longer than others, but it's on its way.
Ya'll need to stop. It's not the Ghost town it was a year ago. I was out in Union square and Hells kitchen last night. Both areas were busy. Took the train home early in the morning. Good amount of people on the train.
Seriously... New York is fine. Plenty crowded during most of the days, especially on weekends, just minus the foreign tourists. You bet people are dying to travel here once they can. Even Midtown, though not quite 100% back, has quite a crowd during the weekday work hours. Once September rolls around, even more office workers will be back.
Seriously... New York is fine. Plenty crowded during most of the days, especially on weekends, just minus the foreign tourists. You bet people are dying to travel here once they can. Even Midtown, though not quite 100% back, has quite a crowd during the weekday work hours. Once September rolls around, even more office workers will be back.
I see a lot of younger people at these outdoor bar shacks. They look like they might be some of these office workers in finance, tech , design, who never lost their jobs and might be working at home but they are still in their apartments. But retail and restaurants are a different story, lots of them went out of business or are struggling
My feeling just by looking is that the the streets look like they have 30-40% less people
The wild card is the Delta Variant
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The bridge and tunnel crowd isn't going to the city at all. Office workers may never go back, tourists aren't there. That's almost 2.5 less people in Manhattan per day. This doesn't even account for the people that fled the city to the suburbs or left the state.
NYC won't go back to normal until 2023 at the earliest. Every one I know says i'm not getting on the LIRR ever again. I know NYC folks hate the bridge and tunnel crowd. The lack of this segment is a massive blow to NYC revenue stream. I'm sure the media overblows the crime and homeless issues a bit, its a major deterrent for suburbanites/tourists. People getting attacked in Times Square during the day isn't helping. I think Adams will help get crime under control. DiBlasi is a doofus.
I don't remember the numbers, Suffolk county w/o any federal aid, blew the tax revenue out of the water. 3rd quarter 2020 and beyond are way up over 2019. Im sure the NYC folks now living in the Hamptons was a big part of it.
Not sure if you're a native or not but by "NYC folks" I hope you mean Manhattanites. And, as we all know, the real authentic born/raised NYers are in fact the bridge and tunnel crowd (SI, Queens, BK and the BX), not transients who live in Manhattan. NJ don't count.
But I do agree with your post otherwise. As a 49 yr old, one observation I've had in all of the boroughs, is that it's really the under 40 crowd that is out and about, especially at night. The over 40 nightlife has been hard to find (trust me I been looking...all of my hangouts have closed since covid). Even your typical borough dive bar is quiet, which surprises me since I figured they'd be packed once they all opened again to 4am. Even Astoria is quiet other than some of the hood joints.
Ya'll need to stop. It's not the Ghost town it was a year ago. I was out in Union square and Hells kitchen last night. Both areas were busy. Took the train home early in the morning. Good amount of people on the train.
Image if some neighborhoods are busier than others? Imagine some neighborhoods are "ghost towns"?
It's possible both are correct statements. Stop putting down what others people experiences are in Manhattan when you both were in completely different parts of the island.
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