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Old 08-07-2021, 04:22 AM
 
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Good on you if you made it work but, even in 2002 I could barely do only $100 a month for food without compromising my health and looking almost junky-skinny, and I never felt full. I wouldn't wish that on any except the most arrogant and violent repeat felons.

Although I suppose never feeling full helped give me the drive to get my E5 in less than 3 years (back before it was basically an automatic promotion).
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Old 08-07-2021, 04:53 AM
 
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Although I suppose never feeling full helped give me the drive to get my E5 in less than 3 years (back before it was basically an automatic promotion).
My MOS' points were very low back then, in the 400's. I made E5 in 2.5 years.
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Old 08-07-2021, 05:27 AM
 
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My MOS' points were very low back then, in the 400's. I made E5 in 2.5 years.
That definitely helped but, back then you still had to be recommended, getting that 5 was the exception not the rule. 2010 rolled around, and I was in Bagram, and it became that 5 became the rule, so NCOs had to write specific counseling statements stating why they shouldn't be promoted...

...now I was lucky I had a platoon, mostly, with guys I was proud to sponsor but, the change in the rules was clear and set a poor precedent.

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Back to the topic though, I didn't want to be too cavalier with advice to the thread originator. My personal experiences have been:

- The Army was what lifted me out of likely permanent poverty and, likely homelessness. It remains my best financial decision.
- $100 a month for food was NOT feasible! Plan around $200.
- Homelessness is at least easiER to escape in NYC due to the abundance of rent-a-room agencies and, an endless amount of McJobs. In FL, NC, GA, PA, wherever; even the McJobs will be completely taken.
- Vagrancy of any kind is treated damn near like a felony in many other states.
- If possible, get in shape and physically look your best. This absolutely opens doors anywhere!
- Don't waste anybody's time with "bla bla bla I can't do it cuz' I'm Black" quite a few senior NCOs I worked with named Tyrone, Jermaine and, Jamal that were some of the most dedicated and talented colleagues I've ever had.
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Old 08-07-2021, 07:18 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Good on you if you made it work but, even in 2002 I could barely do only $100 a month for food without compromising my health and looking almost junky-skinny, and I never felt full. I wouldn't wish that on any except the most arrogant and violent repeat felons.

Although I suppose never feeling full helped give me the drive to get my E5 in less than 3 years (back before it was basically an automatic promotion).
You can do $200 a month for sure if you just eat "regular" food. I see plenty of deals for cereal ($1.99). Regular milk.... Everything non-organic is very affordable, but then I turn over the label and start reading the ingredients. Forget it. Growing up, I hated eating certain fruits, and now I know why. Because it was conventional fruit with wax all over it or whatever they put on regular apples. Stuff is disgusting. That said, when I want to eat cheap, but still buy organic, I leave out the meat and go with veggie dishes that I can make that will be filling or load up on organic fruits like blueberries, which are filling with the fiber.
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Old 08-07-2021, 10:00 AM
 
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You can do $200 a month for sure if you just eat "regular" food. I see plenty of deals for cereal ($1.99). Regular milk.... Everything non-organic is very affordable, but then I turn over the label and start reading the ingredients. Forget it. Growing up, I hated eating certain fruits, and now I know why. Because it was conventional fruit with wax all over it or whatever they put on regular apples. Stuff is disgusting. That said, when I want to eat cheap, but still buy organic, I leave out the meat and go with veggie dishes that I can make that will be filling or load up on organic fruits like blueberries, which are filling with the fiber.
NYC has a Trader Joe. Its NYC prices are based on national averages. NYC buyers pay the same amount as someone in the Midwest/South. The food is higher quality than the average supermarket. Cereals, frozen fruits and fish have terrific low prices.

It's also a great company to work at. It has a competitive benefits package covering health, dental and vision care. Employees pay only a small premium with Trader Joe's paying the rest. Employees also receive paid time off. Trader Joe’s crew remembers receive a performance evaluation twice per year and can receive up to a 7%- 10% pay increase each year which adds up over time. 78% of Trader Joe’s “Mates" a role that is similar to a supervisor within a retail store, started as crew. 100% of Captains (store managers) are promoted from the pool of Mates. Regional Vice Presidents are also promoted from within.
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Old 08-07-2021, 05:34 PM
 
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$7.50? companies are desperate now. anyone who wants a job will make double that with no skills.

when the gov't gravy train ends there are going to be a lot of lazy idiots who wish they got a job when they were easy to get.

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Old 08-07-2021, 05:38 PM
 
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This is a NYC forum, and there are no Walmarts in NYC, so that's a non-issue. NYC has a $15 minimum wage. So if the OP can get a full time job, or a couple of part time jobs to total 40 hours/week, that's $30K/year. Now that's not really great in NYC, but it probably lets your rent a room somewhere in the city and let's you eat. That gets him off the ground, and he can start moving up from there.
Bingo.
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Old 08-07-2021, 05:41 PM
 
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Yeah, but I believe there are some just over the border in Long Island. I have never been to any here. In fact, I haven't been in a Walmart since I was in college, so it's been a while to say the least. lol My question is though, with rents being so high, would that even be enough to rent a room? I don't know what that yields in take-home pay a month.
It is plenty. Bronx has rooms for rent 400-500/month on several sites all the time.

After taxes, $15mw yields $12, so $1,920 every 4 weeks.
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Old 08-07-2021, 05:44 PM
 
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There are no rooms for $500 a month in the Bronx. Every 2 weeks $500 maybe.
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Old 08-07-2021, 06:01 PM
 
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There are no rooms for $500 a month in the Bronx. Every 2 weeks $500 maybe.
just saw 2 listed on cl by the month at that rate. Many more 175/wk, which is also doable with $480/wk net pay (40 hes at minimum wage).
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