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Old 08-23-2021, 08:22 PM
 
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I received today a "We Need to Hear from You," blue and white postcard from Con Edison. It is giving me an option to remain on the Smart Energy Plan, or remain on the one I was using before. Has anyone here received the postcard? And if so, what are your thoughts?

My thoughts are that Con Edison has been sending me on the Smart Energy Plan, ridiculous monthly rates this year, even though we take in consideration the hours of the day, where one can save some money. Like watching when to put the washing machine on. Not leaving the A/C more than one-half hour, etc.

So it is asking me to decide on which plan I want to be. Has anyone here has experienced high rates this year, who has switched from the previous plan to the Smart Energy one? Thank you.
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Old 08-24-2021, 05:43 AM
 
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I never heard of this plan but see it is a pilot program and not in Queens if this is accurate. I don’t think I would participate because my largest electric usage is air conditioning and during a hot muggy summer I am going to use the a/c during the day, which is a peak period.

https://www.coned.com/en/accounts-bi...rt-energy-plan
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Old 08-24-2021, 07:39 AM
 
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I WFH and heat literally vaporizes my productivity so not participating in any BS program like that.

I pay the exorbitant charges, ConEd doesn't get to dictate how much or when I use my A/C. The $150 for the Unlimited monthly metrocard now goes towards my A/C. No difference in monthly expenses.
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Old 08-24-2021, 11:48 AM
 
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For those unawares of what Con Ed is peddling...


https://www.coned.com/en/accounts-bi...rt-energy-plan

https://gothamist.com/news/con-ed-is...electric-bills

https://www.silive.com/news/2019/03/...nergy-use.html

Many other utilities across country have similar schemes, all in the great name of "green" and reducing nation's or local area's local emissions. Note savings overall in the aggregate may not be much per individual household, but that's not point of these schemes. Idea like various zoning and other things is to reduce energy demand which in turn curbs need for production that translates into lower emissions being released into atmosphere from power generation.

Other part of it is that of course if demand can be curbed need to build more power generation sources can be lessened as well.

What you want to watch out for in any of these schemes is giving local power company permission to control "smart" thermostats or whatever in your home. Again idea is to save electricity in the aggregate by raising or lowering heating/cooling thermostats when demand is high.

A Texas power company did this during recent heatwave (raised thermostat settings on air conditioners remotely via smart devices), and results can be deadly.

https://www.businessinsider.com/texa...ratures-2021-6

https://www.vox.com/recode/22543678/...texas-heatwave

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1869077.html

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Old 08-24-2021, 12:26 PM
 
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For those unawares of what Con Ed is peddling...


https://www.coned.com/en/accounts-bi...rt-energy-plan

https://gothamist.com/news/con-ed-is...electric-bills

https://www.silive.com/news/2019/03/...nergy-use.html

Many other utilities across country have similar schemes, all in the great name of "green" and reducing nation's or local area's local emissions. Note savings overall in the aggregate may not be much per individual household, but that's not point of these schemes. Idea like various zoning and other things is to reduce energy demand which in turn curbs need for production that translates into lower emissions being released into atmosphere from power generation.

Other part of it is that of course if demand can be curbed need to build more power generation sources can be lessened as well.

What you want to watch out for in any of these schemes is giving local power company permission to control "smart" thermostats or whatever in your home. Again idea is to save electricity in the aggregate by raising or lowering heating/cooling thermostats when demand is high.

A Texas power company did this during recent heatwave (raised thermostat settings on air conditioners remotely via smart devices), and results can be deadly.

https://www.businessinsider.com/texa...ratures-2021-6

https://www.vox.com/recode/22543678/...texas-heatwave

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1869077.html
I have it with PSEG they can raise my thermostat 2 degrees. Its dumb cause they notify you a day before it will be hot they will use it. I just lower my T-stat 3 degrees on those days so they change it back to normal. I did get 2 ecobees for free and won't renew the program next year.
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Old 08-24-2021, 02:18 PM
 
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Why would anyone give up the freedom to control the temperature in your own home in exchange for a couple of dollars? Simply don't understand that thinking.
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Old 08-25-2021, 06:25 AM
 
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Why would anyone give up the freedom to control the temperature in your own home in exchange for a couple of dollars? Simply don't understand that thinking.

Me either. I think that is insanity. To own a home and have someone else regulate your heat.
This is complete insanity, who ion thier right mind would want to, or better yet, allow someone else to do this???




for a few dollars, I don't see anything good out of that.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:56 AM
 
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Me either. I think that is insanity. To own a home and have someone else regulate your heat.
This is complete insanity, who ion thier right mind would want to, or better yet, allow someone else to do this???




for a few dollars, I don't see anything good out of that.
you will own nothing and you will like it
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Old 08-26-2021, 05:46 AM
 
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you will own nothing and you will like it
Courtesy of Larry Fink at BlackRock
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:27 PM
 
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Why would anyone give up the freedom to control the temperature in your own home in exchange for a couple of dollars? Simply don't understand that thinking.
Point isn't about individual households, but overall energy use in local area and nation.

Virtually all the BS Bloomberg started and BdeB doubled down on (with help from city council in both instances) about NYC buildings being force, dragged or whatever to go green has little to do with individual cost savings.

No, rather everything from mandating solar panels to reduction of emissions are all tied into the mania over "global warming". To reduce emissions these left wing political progressive socialist nut jobs want less new power plants to be built, and for more energy to come from "green" sources.

Problem is green power isn't always there and or reliable, so you need good old power generated by fossil fuels or whatever. NYS/NYC never has nor will have enough internal power generation capacity. When extra is needed we tap into national grid like everyone else.
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