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Old 09-23-2021, 10:05 AM
 
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On Thursday, the MTA will host the first of 13 public meetings to discuss the Central Business District Tolling Program (CBDTP), which would be the first-ever congestion pricing plan implemented in the United States.


https://www.silive.com/news/2021/09/...-thursday.html


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpdU3tp4yN0
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Old 09-26-2021, 05:51 PM
 
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I can't believe this is the first meeting - considering that it was proposed years ago.

I think it's a terrible idea, making it even harder to get around. And, of course, it means even more surveillance.
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Old 09-26-2021, 06:31 PM
 
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All about $. Don't believe anything else anyone says.
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Old 09-30-2021, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Congestion pricing is necessary for this city.....

1) Outer boroughs need the transit improvement money
2) The less cars in Manhattan, the better!

As an alternative, one could have 24-hour HOV's. But given that the transit system needs heavy improvement in the outer boroughs.....

The Bloomberg Administration proposed it, but turned people off with the way the plan was presented.
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Old 09-30-2021, 10:00 AM
 
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It is absolutely not. This is nothing but a bald faced money grab from drivers. If the MTA needs funding RAISE FARES. DON'T stick this on drivers.

In point of fact the city bridges and tunnels should be taken away from the MTA. The toll revenue they generate should go to road maintenance and expansion, and the tolls likely cut.

If they want to cut congestion in Manhattan, there are better ways to do it. As someone who drives in Manhattan, I can definitively say that the majority of the congestion is caused by vehicles double parked, mostly trucks, and of those, the majority being Fedex and UPS. We need a heavily enforced ban in this from 8AM to 7PM, with $25,000 fines and forfeiture of vehicle and cargo for violators. THAT will bring down congestion much more than some money grubbing toll.

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Congestion pricing is necessary for this city.....

1) Outer boroughs need the transit improvement money
2) The less cars in Manhattan, the better!

As an alternative, one could have 24-hour HOV's. But given that the transit system needs heavy improvement in the outer boroughs.....

The Bloomberg Administration proposed it, but turned people off with the way the plan was presented.
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Old 09-30-2021, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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It is absolutely not. This is nothing but a bald faced money grab from drivers. If the MTA needs funding RAISE FARES. DON'T stick this on drivers.

In point of fact the city bridges and tunnels should be taken away from the MTA. The toll revenue they generate should go to road maintenance and expansion, and the tolls likely cut.

If they want to cut congestion in Manhattan, there are better ways to do it. As someone who drives in Manhattan, I can definitively say that the majority of the congestion is caused by vehicles double parked, mostly trucks, and of those, the majority being Fedex and UPS. We need a heavily enforced ban in this from 8AM to 7PM, with $25,000 fines and forfeiture of vehicle and cargo for violators. THAT will bring down congestion much more than some money grubbing toll.
Driving in Manhattan is absolutely insane.....and, for the most part, unnecessary!

1) Too much traffic

2) It's becoming more difficult, anyway, to drive, with more islands and bike lanes being built. Times Square was redone, some time back, making it more walkable. Also, a bike lane and pedestrian walkway was just completed in the Foley Square area. Add to that the bus lane enforcement.
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Old 09-30-2021, 10:12 AM
 
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Has a public meeting ever changed the MTA's plan?

Improve transit in the OB's then people will see the improvements and use it.

Build it they will come

All else is just the Money Taking Agency's MO
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Old 09-30-2021, 10:42 AM
 
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No, but someone needs to politically organize drivers into a pressure group, and have them get up in the face of the politicritters. If they feel threatened enough at the electoral level, things will change. Keep in mind there are 2,000,000 drivers in NYC, and a lot more in the NYS surrounding suburbs. If organized, they would be force to be reckoned with.

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Has a public meeting ever changed the MTA's plan?

Improve transit in the OB's then people will see the improvements and use it.

Build it they will come

All else is just the Money Taking Agency's MO
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Old 09-30-2021, 11:12 AM
 
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This is great. It will force companies and businesses to move out of the city. Less foot traffic means less revenue.

Its better for outer boroughs and better for people looking for work closer to work.
Let those tourists and bums roam the 5th ave.

Even more reasons not to visit the city from time to time.
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Old 09-30-2021, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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It is absolutely not. This is nothing but a bald faced money grab from drivers. If the MTA needs funding RAISE FARES. DON'T stick this on drivers.

In point of fact the city bridges and tunnels should be taken away from the MTA. The toll revenue they generate should go to road maintenance and expansion, and the tolls likely cut.

If they want to cut congestion in Manhattan, there are better ways to do it. As someone who drives in Manhattan, I can definitively say that the majority of the congestion is caused by vehicles double parked, mostly trucks, and of those, the majority being Fedex and UPS. We need a heavily enforced ban in this from 8AM to 7PM, with $25,000 fines and forfeiture of vehicle and cargo for violators. THAT will bring down congestion much more than some money grubbing toll.
That will bring down congestion, and the economy too.
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