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Old 10-02-2021, 08:20 PM
 
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Waiting for all the Socialist Marxist stuff to be posted about next

So predictable on here now
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:30 PM
 
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We all bleed the same color, why so much hate
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:30 PM
 
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It's the current trend to blame politics for everything
Di you think these proposals come out of thin air or maybe from prophet descending from the heavens? Politics is part of society. It's not about blaming it not blaming but it is political.
 
Old 10-02-2021, 08:34 PM
 
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We all bleed the same color, why so much hate
We all bleed the same but we're not the same. Differing outlooks do not constitute hate (another political narrative that's been pushed lately).

Take a look around the world. Culture, priorities, customs, etc. differ all over the world and lead to very varied outcomes.
 
Old 10-02-2021, 08:36 PM
 
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Di you think these proposals come out of thin air or maybe from prophet descending from the heavens? Politics is part of society. It's not about blaming it not blaming but it is political.
You let politics control your life and your way of thinking then that's your fault

Politician tells you how to jump you say how high

Who's fault is that

Do you feel you get back a fair exchange of services for the taxes you pay?
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:38 PM
 
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We all bleed the same but we're not the same. Differing outlooks do not constitute hate (another political narrative that's been pushed lately).

Take a look around the world. Culture, priorities, customs, etc. differ all over the world and lead to very varied outcomes.
I choose not to reciprocate negative energy, I hold no hatred towards anybody and I enjoy learning about different cultures; I teach my kids to do the same.
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:40 PM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...n%20New%20York.

THE HISTORY OF SLAVERY IN NEW YORK STATE

(excerpt)

For more than two decades after the first shipment, the Dutch West India Company was dominant in the importation of slaves from the coasts of Africa. A number of slaves were imported directly from the company's stations in Angola to New Netherland.

Due to a lack of workers in the colony, it relied upon on African slaves, who were described by the Dutch as "proud and treacherous", a stereotype for African-born slaves.[5] The Dutch West India Company allowed New Netherlanders to trade slaves from Angola for "seasoned" African slaves from the Dutch West Indies, particularly Curaçao, who sold for more than other slaves. They also bought slaves that came from privateers of Spanish slave ships. For instance, La Garce a French privateer, arrived in New Amsterdam in 1642 with Spanish Negroes that were captured from a Spanish ship. Although they claimed to be free, and not African, the Dutch sold them as slaves due to their skin color.

Slaves in the north were often owned by notable people like Benjamin Franklin, William Penn and John Hancock. In New Amsterdam, William Henry Seward grew up in a slave-owning family.

In 1711, a formal slave market was established at the end of Wall Street on the East River, and it operated until 1762.

During the American Revolutionary War, the British troops occupied New York City in 1776. The Crown promised freedom to slaves who left rebel masters, and thousands moved to the city for refuge with the British. By 1780, 10,000 black people lived in New York. Many were slaves who had escaped from their slaveholders in both Northern and Southern colonies. After the war, the British evacuated about 3,000 slaves from New York, taking most of them to resettle as free people in Nova Scotia, where they are known as Black Loyalists.

Of the Northern states, New York was next to last in abolishing slavery. (In New Jersey, mandatory, unpaid "apprenticeships" did not end until the Thirteenth Amendment ended slavery, in 1865.


Men were laborers who worked the fields, built forts and roads, and performed other forms of labor. According to the principle of partus sequitur ventrem adopted from southern colonies, children born to enslaved women were considered born into slavery, regardless of the ethnicity or status of the father.

In Sketches of America (1818), British author Henry Bradshaw Fearon, who visited the young United States on a fact-finding mission to inform Britons considering emigration, described the situation in New York City as he found it in August 1817:


Advertisements for slaves in the New York Daily Advertiser in 1817, as reproduced in Henry Bradshaw Fearon's Sketches of America (1818)

New York is called a "free state:" that it may be so so theoretically, or when compared with its southern neighbors; but if, in England, we saw in the Times newspaper such advertisements as the following , we should conclude that freedom from slavery existed only in words

 
Old 10-02-2021, 08:43 PM
 
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You let politics control your life and your way of thinking then that's your fault
I think that's you.

I don't delve into politics much. I am into history and look at reality. Of course all history is biased in one way or another but read enough of it and you generally tend to notice the biases and adjust for them.

You buy into political narratives because it suits your views. That's OK, many people do.
 
Old 10-02-2021, 08:48 PM
 
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I think that's you.

I don't delve into politics much. I am into history and look at reality. Of course all history is biased in one way or another but read enough of it and you generally tend to notice the busses and adjust for them.

You buy into political narratives because it suits your views. That's OK, many people do.
You mentioned politics before me, but that's ok

I just came on this thread to ask if teaching Black American history was wrong to do, and the main response was that White people will be demonized as a result of it. How did this fear get manifested?
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:54 PM
 
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You mentioned politics before me, but that's ok

I just came on this thread to ask if teaching Black American history was wrong to do, and the main response was that White people will be demonized as a result of it. How did this fear get manifested?
The "main response" aka one posters response?

I don't think white people will be demonized. I don't think black history should be taught. Nor Irish. Nor Italian. Nor Jewish. Nor Chinese. Nor Dominican.

We all know this is being done to further a political narrative. So some may come to that "whites will be demonized" conclusion. That's the issue with pushing political narratives.
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