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Old 10-02-2021, 08:56 PM
 
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Nothing to be careful about. First and sometimes second generation immigrants almost always have a hard time. Especially if they come from poverty in their native country.
I don't know if it is just first and second generation though. Either way, things are more complex than what is generally told.

 
Old 10-02-2021, 08:56 PM
 
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The "main response" aka one posters response?

I don't think white people will be demonized. I don't think black history should be taught. Nor Irish. Nor Italian. Nor Jewish. Nor Chinese. Nor Dominican.

We all know this is being done to further a political narrative. So some may come to that "whites will be demonized" conclusion. That's the issue with pushing political narratives.
Whats the political narrative? Enlighten us.
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Old 10-02-2021, 09:07 PM
 
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. I don't think black history should be taught. Nor Irish. Nor Italian. Nor Jewish. Nor Chinese. Nor Dominican.
So when they teach WWII in school leave out the extermination of Jews?
 
Old 10-02-2021, 09:10 PM
 
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We all know this is being done to further a political narrative. So some may come to that "whites will be demonized" conclusion. That's the issue with pushing political narratives.
And you think NOT teaching it isn't pushing a "political narrative". Why are racist Republicans so against teaching it then?
 
Old 10-02-2021, 09:20 PM
 
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Whats the political narrative? Enlighten us.
The DOE has been in existence since 1969 teaching US and NYC history. Them magically after the turmoil of the last year and the BLM narrative, they decide to spontaneously institute a K-12 Black Studies curriculum. Alongside this "black studies" curriculum they're also instituting a Latino Studies and Asian Studies curriculum. Oh wait, they're not?

You keep thinking people are dumb but everybody knows what's up.

The beauracrats who came up with this see American history as "white" studies so they want to counter it with "black" studies.
Why would they institute this curriculum otherwise?


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So when they teach WWII in school leave out the extermination of Jews?
Only insofar as it relates to America's involvement in WW2. A mention of the US liberating concentration camps should suffice. Other than that, they should leave it out

If someone is interested, there are plenty of books, documentaries, or they can take a course in college.

Do you think there should be a K-12 Holocaust curriculum?
 
Old 10-02-2021, 09:25 PM
 
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So when they teach WWII in school leave out the extermination of Jews?
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Only insofar as it relates to America's involvement in WW2. A mention of the US liberating concentration camps should suffice. Other than that, they should leave it out

If someone is interested, there are plenty of books, documentaries, or they can take a course in college.

Do you think there should be a K-12 Holocaust curriculum?
So a high school student should not be taught any world history unless it involves America?
 
Old 10-02-2021, 09:30 PM
 
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And you think NOT teaching it isn't pushing a "political narrative". Why are racist Republicans so against teaching it then?
But it is being taught? I went to NYC public schools. Social Studies and American History spoke, at length, about the South, Slavery, the Civil War, Jim Crow, Civil Rights, etc.

If I had to guess, this curriculum will be the 1619 project and CRT in disguise sprinkled in with the CIA crated the crack epidemic and MLK was killed by the FBI.

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Old 10-02-2021, 09:33 PM
 
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So a high school student should not be taught any world history unless it involves America?
There are US History classes and Social Studies classes. Depends on the topic, that's what is taught.
 
Old 10-02-2021, 09:43 PM
 
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The "main response" aka one posters response?

I don't think white people will be demonized. I don't think black history should be taught. Nor Irish. Nor Italian. Nor Jewish. Nor Chinese. Nor Dominican.

We all know this is being done to further a political narrative. So some may come to that "whites will be demonized" conclusion. That's the issue with pushing political narratives.
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Whats the political narrative? Enlighten us.


You know. There’s that spiel that goes against the narrative that all are equal under God, the bootstraps; Daddy Warbucks: keep your head down and burrow on.

Some folks should be grateful that they are living in Whitey’s house, on White man’s street name, and sitting in a white man’s car, and it shouldn’t matter that a lot of the opportunities afforded whitey came too late for non whiteys.
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Old 10-02-2021, 10:05 PM
 
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There are US History classes and Social Studies classes. Depends on the topic, that's what is taught.
So a high school student should not be taught any world history unless it involves America?

The New York City Department of Education
Grades 9-12 Social Studies Scope & Sequence 2014-15


Below and excerpt Unit 3, 4th row = Atrocities and Genocide

World War II (Causes and
Impact)

■ Human and physical geography
(pre and post-war political maps)
■ The Nazi and Japanese states
■ Key individuals (Hitler, Mussolini,
Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt, Tojo)
■ Atrocities and genocide
(The Holocaust – Jews, Poles,
Roma, homosexuals, Ukrainian
Holodomor)
■ Resistance
■ Japan’s role (Nanjing, Bataan,
Pearl Harbor)
■ Effects of technological advances
on warfare



https://www.weteachnyc.org/resources...B%5D=Relevance

Below, still current

Look, plenty of the dreaded world history being taught


Essential Question:
How were global kingdoms and
empires built? What conditions
favor empire building?


Qing Dynasty (1644 – ca. 1750
C.E.)



Conflicts and Change in Middle
East 10.7c, 10.8b



Chinese Communist Revolution
(1936 – 1997 C.E.) 10.7d


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