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Old 11-09-2021, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Manhattan Billionaires’ Row Homeless Shelter Opens After Years-Long Legal Battle.
Hope this goes well.

https://www.thecity.nyc/housing/2021...r-legal-battle

After four years and several court battles, a residence for 140 homeless men quietly opened, steps from some of the priciest real estate in Manhattan.

The West 58th Street shelter is located in the former Park Savoy Hotel, next door to an entrance of the 1,000-foot-high One57, one of several supertall buildings on so-called Billionaires’ Row.

The shelter opened Friday, the Department of Homeless Services said, more than four years after the city first submitted plans to the state in August 2017 — and more than three years after neighbors sued to block the facility. Foes claimed the building was unsafe, but New York’s highest court ruled against the group in May.

DHS Commissioner Steve Banks said, to his knowledge, it was “the longest and the most well-funded litigation” against a shelter in the five boroughs.

“Not every shelter opening results in a court challenge, but where there have been court challenges, we’ve prevailed in every one,” he told THE CITY.

Just five men have moved in this week, and a few will be moving in each week until the shelter is full, officials said.
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Old 11-09-2021, 02:00 PM
 
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A one bedroom next door is currently for sale for $5 million.

This is funny. But the wealthy have unlimited resources. They will just pack up and move.
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Old 11-09-2021, 03:03 PM
 
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Why are people so shocked by this. This is the way things always have been. People just didn't always know they were living next to homeless shelters because it wasn't advertised and there was no google to check. I lived in a co-op building. Apartments ranged from half million to a few million and literally right next door was a homeless shelter. This is what you get when you live in a city. You want a gated community then go to the burbs.
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Old 11-09-2021, 03:12 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Why are people so shocked by this. This is the way things always have been. People just didn't always know they were living next to homeless shelters because it wasn't advertised and there was no google to check. I lived in a co-op building. Apartments ranged from half million to a few million and literally right next door was a homeless shelter. This is what you get when you live in a city. You want a gated community then go to the burbs.
Easy for you to say. When you purchase a property, you do so as an investment, one of the biggest ones you can make. I don't want a homeless shelter where I sleep at night. Put it elsewhere!

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A one bedroom next door is currently for sale for $5 million.

This is funny. But the wealthy have unlimited resources. They will just pack up and move.
The City and de Blasio are idiots, driving away a much needed tax base.
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Old 11-09-2021, 03:40 PM
 
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Why are people so shocked by this. This is the way things always have been. People just didn't always know they were living next to homeless shelters because it wasn't advertised and there was no google to check. I lived in a co-op building. Apartments ranged from half million to a few million and literally right next door was a homeless shelter. This is what you get when you live in a city. You want a gated community then go to the burbs.
Or move to South America like Brazil where they build walls around ghettos and have armed private guards to protect the wealthy. Meanwhile the rich live in their own neighborhoods with luxuries like running potable water and 24/7 electricity.
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Old 11-09-2021, 03:56 PM
 
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Easy for you to say. When you purchase a property, you do so as an investment, one of the biggest ones you can make. I don't want a homeless shelter where I sleep at night. Put it elsewhere!
Hmmm most people I know purchase property to have a roof over their head and for somewhere to sleep.
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Old 11-09-2021, 11:51 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Hmmm most people I know purchase property to have a roof over their head and for somewhere to sleep.
True, but a home is usually the biggest purchase that many people make, and like it or not, it's their biggest investment. Calling to bust the entire City with homeless shelters and pushing out taxpayers is not the answer. Without a middle class, there won't be a tax base. The rich can leave and go anywhere.
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Old 11-10-2021, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Is there a need for homeless people in Manhattan? Why open a shelter on such high-priced real estate when the same clients could have been serviced equally well in a less-expensive location?

Just a couple of blocks from Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco is a huge public housing project. The land is worth a fortune yet it provides shelter for undesirables and criminals to congregate near one of the city's top tourist attractions.

Both of these projects could have been built in lower-cost areas a few miles away. Why should Taxpayers fund the non-productive to live in areas that most working Americans can only dream about?

Undoubtedly there are many more just like these.
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Old 11-10-2021, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Staten Island
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True, but a home is usually the biggest purchase that many people make, and like it or not, it's their biggest investment. Calling to bust the entire City with homeless shelters and pushing out taxpayers is not the answer. Without a middle class, there won't be a tax base. The rich can leave and go anywhere.

Not only 'Billionaires' on that block but neighborhood restaurants and shops whose customers will be harassed and driven away by the homeless. deBlasio and Banks know full well what they are doing. driving out successful businesses and residents is their goal.
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Old 11-10-2021, 10:51 AM
 
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Is there a need for homeless people in Manhattan? Why open a shelter on such high-priced real estate when the same clients could have been serviced equally well in a less-expensive location?

Just a couple of blocks from Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco is a huge public housing project. The land is worth a fortune yet it provides shelter for undesirables and criminals to congregate near one of the city's top tourist attractions.

Both of these projects could have been built in lower-cost areas a few miles away. Why should Taxpayers fund the non-productive to live in areas that most working Americans can only dream about?

Undoubtedly there are many more just like these.
This is the City claiming that they need to "spread the burden equally". Please... The City has spent record amounts of money on the homeless problem, and under de Blasio, the homeless population has only increased. If they really wanted to address homelessness, they wouldn't be focusing on shelters, but rather permanent housing.

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Not only 'Billionaires' on that block but neighborhood restaurants and shops whose customers will be harassed and driven away by the homeless. deBlasio and Banks know full well what they are doing. driving out successful businesses and residents is their goal.
Look at some of the contracts the City is voting on next week. The proposed shelter in North Riverdale alone would be worth almost $200 million dollars. It's very clear that there are some people that stand to profit handsomely from these deals. https://riverdalepress.com/stories/c...UVr0jH9_J09tLY

Contracts under consideration next week:

• Bowery Residents Committee for a homeless single adults shelter at 13-12 Beach Channel Drive in Far Rockaway through June 2064 for $455.8 million.

• Care for the Homeless for a homeless single adults shelter at 91 E. Broadway in Manhattan through June 2053 for $338 million.

• Catholic Charities Community Services Archdiocese of New York for a homeless single adults shelter at 47 Madison St., in Manhattan through June 2065 for $183.6 million.

• Children's Rescue Fund/Icahn House for a homeless families with children shelter at 162 E. 206th St., in the Bronx through June 2030 for $38.1 million.

• HELP Social Services Corp., for a homeless women's intake and assessment shelter at 221 Glenmore Ave., Brooklyn through June 2065 for $508.9 million.

• Urban Resource Institute, for a homeless families with children shelter at 133-04 39th Ave., in Flushing through June 2065 for $440.1 million.

• Westhab, for a homeless single adults shelter at 62 Hanson Place in Brooklyn through June 2026 (with an option to renew through June 2030) for $60.9 million.

• Westhab, for a homeless single adults shelter at 2028 White Plains Road in the Bronx through June 2026 (with an option to renew through June 2030) for $43.5 million.
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